Topic: New tags discussion

Posted under Tag/Wiki Projects and Questions

Genjar said:
There's currently no good way to search for various types of transformation. Such as an anthro transforming into a feral. Searching for antro feral transformation gets poor results.

So I'm thinking that we should add tags such as anthro_to_feral, feral_to_anthro, human_to_feral, etc for mid-transformation posts.

I'm going to go ahead and approve use of this one. I'm going to see how it does before implying anything (I think transformation is probably the only safe one).

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Tag(s) idea:
ambiguous_form/unknown_form

Reason(s):
There could be posts with a character that has an appearance that's hard to tell whether it's an anthro or a feral, without outside knowledge because of TWYS- which I have no problems with. Kind of like ambiguous_gender.

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Genjar said:
I'm against both of those tags.
Alien_genitalia isn't needed: we already have unusual_penis etc, and there's no standard for 'alien' genitalia. It has the same problems as dragon_penis had.

And Xenophilia means attraction to anything different. Not just to aliens.

The alien tag by itself is ambiguous, and is usually tagged by outside information. It's been largely replaced by humanoid, monster, and other species tags. We should consider disambiguating it.

Those are good points, agreed. Should

  • alien_genitalia be aliased to unusual_penis?
    • somewhat hesitant about that, since unusual_penis is a catchall tag, not really specific to aliens. But the former is relatively unpopulated, and the latter usually relies on outside/prior knowledge (which doesn't seem so terrible, at least for known alien species like xenomorphs and such)
  • xenophilia... no idea. You're right about the literal definition, which people will likely end up using as a catchall too, not just aliens
    • maybe use something with that for the 'sex with really weird-looking non-animals'? There was the aberration tag i mentioned in the other forum somewhere

You'd have a whole other set of main body type tags though: (alphabetical)

  • Which still doesn't give an umbrella tag for the theme that's aberration-specific
    • (like how bestiality currently applies to anthro or humans + feral)
  • There's interspecies, but that's already so broad, not even including extraterrestrial characters
  • maybe a conjunctive search for {{interspecies aberration [second body type}} would work for now?
    • 'aberration' content is relatively rare for the time being anyway. Which may or may not be a reason to have a specific tag for it (see forum #187913 for an example of why)

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selfnote: Should probably move this to a dedicated forum topic

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Just saw the death_piss tag, which was interesting, and seems valid.
Don't know if there's an existing tag for it (see the wiki for a definition + examples)

Any thoughts about that?

I'd like to rename it to something less colloquial though, but that's probably a personal preference more than anything. Since the name is exactly what it sounds like

Plus, can't think of a better one at the moment, other than maybe some weird sounding medical term

death_urination?

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Tranquil_Bunny said:
I agree, but i'd also add (Thunder_Thighs) im sure everyone knows what that means

You mean thick_thighs?

Genjar said:
Should there be a tag for multi-copyright crossovers?

post #869343 post #368562 post #425898

Could call it multi_crossover...

Searching for crossover copytags:>2 kind of used to work, but it is getting less and less useful as more copyright implications are added (series -> owner).

absolutely_everyone for the ones which loads and loads of chars.

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When people ask questions or have discussions about tags, why is it the example pictures are always excellent artwork?

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Bj007pro said:
When people ask questions or have discussions about tags, why is it the example pictures are always excellent artwork?

Because they tend to give the clearest example of the issue/situation/object in question.

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Adding this here, since it seems more relevant (still not an 'official' tag by the way)

forum #189801
See the wiki article for more info

titanmelon said:
Added the multiple_penises_pictured tag to post #

similar to zero_pictured
multiple_*

search for mult*penis* brings up only multi_penis
multi*cock* brings up nothing

See also forum #188947
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Added some more examples

Please mention in here if:

  • you're interested in a tag like this
  • know of a way to consistently identify these scenarios without the need for a new tag

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titanmelon said:

  • know of a way to consistently identify these scenarios without the need for a new tag

I just wanted to highlight penis_everywhere and frottage as a way of pulling posts out.

Also, I don't know how we should handle multi_penis in this. I don't mean to complicate this more than needed, but just a thought.

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Genjar

Former Staff

The metal tag is a complete mess. Mix of various objects, bodytypes, wall materials, etc.

I think we should be using more specific tags instead.

So I'd like to promote usage of metallic_body, for characters whose skin looks metallic. Various *_body tags are sometimes used for that purpose (including occasional steel_body and gold_body tags), but trying to sort metal types by TWYS seems impossible: too many look similar. Iron, steel, and chrome for instance. Tagging those as metallic_body + color seems better for searchability.

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Genjar

Former Staff

I mentioned grabbing_from_behind in an another thread, but better mention it here too so it doesn't get overlooked.

post #456238 post #757518 post #364754

One character positioned behind another, reaching around to grab something. Usually breasts or penis. Should be combined with the appropriate *_grab tag. Not always explicit.

There's some overlap with reach_around, but that one's of limited use compared to this.

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It's still pretty funny to see art of morbidly obese/clearly overweight characters tagged with slightly_chubby

More sad than funny, actually.

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Genjar

Former Staff

titanmelon said:
Just learned about the ambiguous_substance tag, ~12 posts

Not sure if needed.
It's old and sounds overly broad compared to ambiguous_fluids (almost to the level of thing´). I moved the fluids under the new tag. There's one post left (post #36260), and it might also fit under fluids... well enough. Though I'd simply tag that as whipped cream + [[suggestive_food]] instead.

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forum #191788 for full post

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Genjar said:
Not sure if needed.
It's old and sounds overly broad compared to ambiguous_fluids

Yeah, that's true
Not all substances are fluids, but personally haven't really seen much, if any cases where an ambiguous_substance|object tag was needed (never really looked out for it though)

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If this is where I have to ask to create tags: bow_knot

It would replace the ambiguous "bow" (mind you, it still needs to be cleaned of bow_(weapon).) tag, and may remove the *part*_ribbons, (hair_ribbon, tail_ribbon), since I do not understand why the specification is needed. Tags that use *body part*_bow (hair_bow, tail_bow, bow_tie, penis_ribbon) would imply this. This also states the change of penis_ribbon to penis_bow.

post #891973 ; post #888803 ; post #892082 ; post #883782

It would also apply to bows that do not attach to the currently labeled knots, clothes, or onto itself.

post #890364 ; post #803177 ; post #792858 ; post #785911

It could imply ribbons, but a potential clash is when said knot is from string, and not a ribbon. However, for simplicity's sake, they can both be called ribbon.

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Genjar

Former Staff

Circeus said:
Is it distinct enough from bicycle to justify the separation?

Maybe not.
It tends to get mixed up in riding, though. If there was an actual tag for cycling, then maybe riding would stay in better order.

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Circeus said:
Introducing starter trio for pics that feature a generation's, well... trio of starter pokemons.

Well, what about cross-generational starters? Like, now that there's a grass bird starter, somebody did an image involving Rowlet, Piplup, and Torchic. There also may be starter trios with other starter trios.

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Furrin_Gok said:
Well, what about cross-generational starters? Like, now that there's a grass bird starter, somebody did an image involving Rowlet, Piplup, and Torchic. There also may be starter trios with other starter trios.

I've included pics with multiple starter trios, but not "mixed" trios. To me it's not the same theme if you don't have a full trio. I've also excluded pics with trios and non-trio pokemon other than Pikachu.

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Circeus said:
I've included pics with multiple starter trios, but not "mixed" trios. To me it's not the same theme if you don't have a full trio. I've also excluded pics with trios and non-trio pokemon other than Pikachu.

just to ask a question, is here lots of tags out here that should be fixed up and cleared? sorry, i'm new, just being curious. i'd like to help contribute to the site if i can.

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RealKorra said:
just to ask a question, is here lots of tags out here that should be fixed up and cleared? sorry, i'm new, just being curious. i'd like to help contribute to the site if i can.

Take a look at forum #18467. That's the Tagging Projects thread, they make mention when there's something that needs worked on.

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Furrin_Gok said:
Take a look at forum #18467. That's the Tagging Projects thread, they make mention when there's something that needs worked on.

okay thanks i'll take a look.

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Just created the romantic_ambience romantic_ambience romantic_ambiance tag, ~250 tag count

(Proposed) Purpose:

Move copied all those 'romantic setting/mood/atmosphere' etc. type posts into their own dedicated tag, so the romantic tag can be used as an umbrella instead

Examples:
Common features/settings:
Couple Notes:

tl;dr most cases of these tag are really subjective across cultures, so trying to set a rigid definition may end up being counter-productive

  • This was a really hard and fast tag project - It was done with intentionally loose standards to avoid interpretation bias in various forms
  • The definition for 'romantic ambiance' here basically includes any post with substantial background detail, in such a way that the background compliments the foreground in a romantic way (see examples above)
    • Due to the subjective nature of this tag, that may end up being the standard anyway, since the alternative options impose on artistic freedoms/enforce cultural ideals that may not be identical everywhere

Also, nominating this forum topic for a sticky
(unless,there's a reason nobody else suggested that already)

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TruckNutz said:
Wow! Those positions are HOT!
My favorite position is the JFK
I splatter on her while she screams and gets outta the car

But if she tries to get out of the car but is pulled back in by a third person, is that the "true JFK"?

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Genjar

Former Staff

titanmelon said:
Before I start populating it, would anyone object to/have a better idea for the following tags:

Those seem way too specific. How about something like larger_on_top and smaller_on_top instead?

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Genjar said:
Those seem way too specific. How about something like larger_on_top and smaller_on_top instead?

Could've sworn I replied to this..weird

  • Sounds much better/shorter/less ambiguous
  • What about aliasing the big* and small* tags to:
    • big* -> larger* ; small* -> smaller* ?
  • might be longer to type though, dunno how much of a problem that would be in the long run, or if a tag alias shortcut could fix that
    • maybe larger* -> bigger*. One less letter to type

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populated a handful of posts

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Genjar said:

Yeah, do you think we should change the existing larger_* tags to bigger_*?
Easier to type (maybe)

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Genjar

Former Staff

Another position that might be common enough to tag:
post #918266

It's usually called 'speed bump', so speed_bump_position might work. I'm not sure if it's descriptive enough, though. Anyone got better names?

titanmelon said:
Yeah, do you think we should change the existing larger_* tags to bigger_*?
Easier to type (maybe)

Smaller and larger work well as a word pair, I see no need to change it.

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Genjar

Former Staff

Here's a recent little-known tag that might require discussion: animal_head.
It's tagged for characters with fully human torso, but animal head:

post #54641 post #505735 post #329683

The classic depictions of ancient Egyptian deities would also fall under the tag.

Does anyone have any objections to it? If not, maybe it should be implicated to animal_humanoid?

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So uh, do we have an existing tag for rainbow_theme or similar?
There's rainbow_colors
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@Genjar:
Agreed to all of that

Pretty sure there's an existing, less ambiguous name for the speed bump position. I'll look into it soon..ish

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Genjar

Former Staff

Rainbow theme is partially covered by colorful. Though colorful doesn't always imply full rainbow, so maybe there's room for both tags.

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Noob here, my blacklist is literally over 2900 characters because I often tread the line of morality and a bunch of my fetishes attract some cruel stuff which I dislike, but of course also the stuff that I like.

A consenting_victim tag or anything to be used when the victim of an action is enjoying it or doesn't fight back.
But also a suffering_victim or something to indicate that not only the victim is not consenting, but also not enjoying it at all and probably wants it to stop or wishes it never happened.

Some fetishes that get a lot of that are vore (some times, the victim wants to go in post #886736 , sometimes they are desperate or hopeless about it post #153240, some times the one who isn't consensting is the one having people go inside of them post #495141 )
rape post #911691 post #781442
and torture (has everything from casual feet tickles post #895245 to hot wax or electricity for fun post #274882 to some abuse humiliation post #201386 and even gore, snuff and what not post #501731 ).

I might be using the black list in a inefficient way, but I just want them to be really precise. Dunno if the ~ and * stuff which I have no idea how to use would help, I usually test what I'm blacklisting by searching it so I'm sure it didn't take away a pic I wouldn't have anything against.

Just a dream, but, eh, seems like consent is a basic concept, I'm surprised the consenting/consented tag doesn't exist, maybe it's stupid since forced exists, dunno.

Sorry for being a massive noob in case I'm being one.

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@LunarHarmonyGatherer:
There was talk of a consensual/nonconsenusal tag pair sometime ago, which stemmed from very similar reasons to yours

consenting_victim / suffering victim would be useful for situations like those, but then you get into questions like

  • Can a consenting_victim also be a suffering_victim?

Was thinking about tags like this for happy_sex/unhappy_sex as well -

All these pairs have very similar reasons behind using them and can't easily be filled with the more complicated tag combination searches- Which might be a possible sign that a new set of tags are needed

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(I'd wait a bit to see if anyone else knows more/has a better idea about your consenting_victim/suffering_victim idea)

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titanmelon said:

  • Can a consenting_victim also be a suffering_victim?

Sure enough, if the artist depicts it correctly, could be some advanced form of emotional masochism. The victim wants to feel bad. Cuckold is kinda like that, right?

I know there are people out there who would benefit from this tag fetish-wise, since hurting people and watching them suffer is a general fetish. Something like psycho/emotional sadism, some people really enjoy seeing characters feeling despair or hopelessness.

It's kinda fuzzy when I think of it... but having tags that when black listed, still allow those sweet tears of pleasure, while blocking all suffering and cruelty would be nice.

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Genjar

Former Staff

Just realized that there's no tag for posts where a character with hemipenes/multi-penis is using more than one penis for penetration. Like this:

post #549988 post #481775 post #323370

Most of those are completely untagged, and some are tagged as multi_fuck. Which is too ambiguous to keep.

And I can't think of a good name for the tag. Can't go with dual_penetration etc, because those would get mixed up with double_penetration.

Any naming suggestions?

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Genjar said:
Just realized that there's no tag for posts where a character with hemipenes/multi-penis is using more than one penis for penetration. Like this:

post #549988 post #481775 post #323370

Most of those are completely untagged, and some are tagged as multi_fuck. Which is too ambiguous to keep.

And I can't think of a good name for the tag. Can't go with dual_penetration etc, because those would get mixed up with double_penetration.

Any naming suggestions?

Multi_penes_penetration & hemipenes_penetration? It'd be specified as both/all are in at once.

Alternatively: multiple_penis_penetration, multiple_dildo_penetration, multiple_sex_toy_penetration, etc..

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You know how sometimes anger is illustrated in a picture by a bit of steam coming from the person's head? Is there a name for that?

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Genjar

Former Staff

Siral_Exan said:
Multi_penes_penetration & hemipenes_penetration? It'd be specified as both/all are in at once.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. But it doesn't follow the standard for the <bodypart>_penetration tag group.

vaginal_penetration, anal_penetration, urethal_penetration, ear_penetration, sheath_penetration, etc. Things that are being penetrated.

That might not be a big deal, though.

Penguinempire-Dennis said:
You know how sometimes anger is illustrated in a picture by a bit of steam coming from the person's head? Is there a name for that?

Doesn't seem to exist yet, except for the one that Furrin Gok mentioned. I wonder if steaming_mad would work...?

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Genjar said:
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. But it doesn't follow the standard for the <bodypart>_penetration tag group.

vaginal_penetration, anal_penetration, urethal_penetration, ear_penetration, sheath_penetration, etc. Things that are being penetrated.

That might not be a big deal, though.

Hemipenes/vaginal_penetration, multi_penes/sheath_penetration, and etc for the rest. It'd mimic our */* sex tags, but still be ambiguous as for the actual gender for the penetrators.

We could also do that for other, more mundane stuff; like dildo/anal_penetration, or penis/ear_penetration if wanted.

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Genjar

Former Staff

Here's an another recent addition:

post #474102 post #386753 post #855426 post #331986

double_cumshot

, for multi-penis characters who are simultaneously cumming with both penises.

I've been cleaning the cumshot tag, and noticed that those are surprisingly common.

The tag has a couple of potential problems: what if the character has more than two? I couldn't find any examples of that, though. And the name might be easy to confuse with other things, remains to be seen if it'll be tagged consistently.

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Genjar said:
Here's an another recent addition:

post #474102 post #386753 post #855426 post #331986

double_cumshot

, for multi-penis characters who are simultaneously cumming with both penises.

I've been cleaning the cumshot tag, and noticed that those are surprisingly common.

The tag has a couple of potential problems: what if the character has more than two? I couldn't find any examples of that, though. And the name might be easy to confuse with other things, remains to be seen if it'll be tagged consistently.

Multi-cum*. It'd either replace or exist (lack of better word) with double_cum*. If it is multiple entities, it'd be multiple_cum* (unless not bothered). Of specific note, asterisk denote the other cum tags, but only specific to cumming, not cum_on.

For instance: a person with four dicks cumshotting would have multi-cumshot, along with cumshot. If four people are cumming in one pussy, it'd be multiple_cum_in_pussy, along with cum_in_pussy. If my said latter example is past tense, and there is just cum in the pussy, it only gets cum_in_pussy. There can also be umbrella tags for multi-cum and multiple_cum(ming) for multple_cum*, which would just be multi-cum and multiple_cum(ming). The specifics would imply it.

The way to define it is singular over plural: multi- is singular, multple_ is plural.

In shorthand: if it's one person with multiple dicks, it'd be multi-cum*; if it's multiple people, it's multiple_cum*. If two or more are cumming in the same area, then it gets tagged with multiple_cum_in*, and if it's one with two or more, then it's multi-cum_in*. I prefer the hyphen because it's modifying "cum", as a prefix, instead of adding on "multi" to the word as seperate.

This is obviously a bit of a rough sketch, feel free to try to tinker with it.

*edit* I think I can phrase this a little better: if a person with two or more penes cum inside one orifice, it'd get cum, cum_in_*, multi-cum, and multi-cum_in_*; if a person with two or more penes cum, but not in the same orifice, then it gets cum, cum_in_*, and multi-cum; If two or more people cum inside one orifice at the same time, it'd get cum, cum_in_*, multiple_cum, and multiple_cum_in_*; if two or more people cum at the same time, but not in the same orifice, it'd get cum, cum_in_*, and multiple_cum. I'm purposely excluding tentacles, that would be a nightmare of tags...

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Genjar

Former Staff

Siral_Exan said:
Multi-cum*. It'd either replace or exist (lack of better word) with double_cum*. If it is multiple entities, it'd be multiple_cum* (unless not bothered). Of specific note, asterisk denote the other cum tags, but only specific to cumming, not cum_on.

Yes, I think that'd work.
Will have to test it in practice, but it seems consistent with multi_penis and other existing tags (such as double_handjob and multi_handjob: one character, multiple handjobs).

Most multi_* tags are currently written without the dash, though. That should probably be standardized one way or the other.

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Genjar

Former Staff

titanmelon said:
Any thoughts on multi uterus?
Seems very valid, if just undertagged (some real animals have multiple 'uteri'/vaginas

Seems valid enough. ...not sure if undertagged or just rare.

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titanmelon said:
3. looking_at_partner

Shouldn't Eye_contact be aliased to that?

Genjar said:
We probably should have a specific tag for this position:
post #377975 post #376500 post #914784 post #76334 post #422864

I've been collecting these into a set for a while, and with 77 posts already, it seems common enough.

Any suggestions for a name? It's a hard one to name, but I've been using perched_atop as the set name. Would that work as the tag?

mounting + on_top_of if what I've been using.

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Genjar

Former Staff

Circeus said:
Shouldn't Eye_contact be aliased to that?

It didn't work the first time around, which is why those were recently unaliased. Though the alias was other way around. (One character looking at the other doesn't imply that there's any eye contact. So the alias caused eye_contact to be tagged for posts where one partner had eyes closed, or was looking elsewhere, etc.)

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Genjar said:
We probably should have a specific tag for this position:
post #377975 post #376500 post #914784 post #76334 post #422864

I've been collecting these into a set for a while, and with 77 posts already, it seems common enough.

Any suggestions for a name? It's a hard one to name, but I've been using perched_atop as the set name. Would that work as the tag?

uh... bird_mating_position? I can't find a proper name for that.

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Genjar

Former Staff

ZaSigma4 said:
uh... bird_mating_position? I can't find a proper name for that.

Might work. ...or maybe simply perching_position?

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Genjar said:
It didn't work the first time around, which is why those were recently unaliased. Though the alias was other way around. (One character looking at the other doesn't imply that there's any eye contact. So the alias caused eye_contact to be tagged for posts where one partner had eyes closed, or was looking elsewhere, etc.)

Oh, I meant implication, not alias >>;;

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I tried again and found this, may be useful.

  • tread: (Zoology) (of a male bird) to copulate with (a female bird)
  • Treading: male treads with both feet in a treadmill fashion on female's back.

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Genjar said:
We probably should have a specific tag for this position:

Would that be a subset of mounting?

perch_position

sounds fine to me,
tread* is interesting, but no idea how ambiguous that would become

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Is there a tag specifically for a character sitting open brooms, railing, ropes, etc? The sitting tag is really vague and most of them are just going to be people on the ground or in a chair.
post #929383
Images like this, for example. And I wouldn't be opposed to finding images like post #647944, either, though that might need another tag since it's not actually sitting.

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Furrin_Gok said:
Is there a tag specifically for a character sitting open brooms, railing, ropes, etc? The sitting tag is really vague and most of them are just going to be people on the ground or in a chair.
post #929383
Images like this, for example. And I wouldn't be opposed to finding images like post #647944, either, though that might need another tag since it's not actually sitting.

I guess straddling could be used, it is far from perfect, but maybe the most accurate we got atm, however it is commonly used for sex positions which makes it quite useless to find such specific posts.

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