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I just came here to say that I miss the download button simply opening the picture in the current tab instead of forcing a new tab open; I thought that was all I'd be bothered by and I could adapt to the rest. You're telling me I now have to log in to see stuff from an arbitrarily selected universal blacklist?

i'm just excited for when they eventually revert it due to community backlash.

completely remaking the site was unnecessary.
the favorite button isn't even a green button anymore. i have to look for it under the list of options.
it's like you intentionally made it harder to find.
Edit: oh apparently there's 2 favorite buttons. The new one isn't green either and is always white. So idk if I favorited an image without first double checking to see it has a - instead of a +.

You knew there would be backlash for this so the fact that you didnt have an option to keep the old layout is some Youtube/twitter Bullshit.

Another thing that blows my mind is that they're asking for coding suggestions. Just hire a website coder, don't screw up the site and then expect everyone to clean it up for you.

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horny_bastard said:
i'm just excited for when they eventually revert it due to community backlash.
You knew there would be backlash for this so the fact that you didnt have an option to keep the old layout is some Youtube/twitter Bullshit.

Knowing how the website is handled, and if you read that passive-agressive "If the website is shit it's your fault for not giving us feedback" OP, I think you're in for a surprise if you think they will do anything about it.
Remember when the wildcard was removed for guests? Now not only it is the wildcard search, but also guests have a completely arbitrary, and non-coherent blacklist forced on them.
Basically, they willingfully decided that unless you have an account, you can't have full access to the website, something that e621 was all about.
I wouldn't be surprised if there will be entire tags and functions being put behind a paywall in the near future, knowing that we're halfway there, being forced to make an account to see everything the website hosts, which is an abomination on its own.

One major design proposal:

Too much drop shadow. So many boxes have drop shadow and gaps between each other, especially for comments. I don't think it's necessary for the comment section boxes to have drop shadow (also, the Reply surrounding box doesn't have drop shadow so if it goes one way or the other it should at least be consistent). Separating quotes with large width edge boxes was also more than enough i.e. nothing needed to be changed about it. My eyes noticed the second that I got into a post that the page became too cluttered with visuals from these little separations and shadows.

I DON'T LIKE CHANGE

I followed the advice of my homegirl @Millcore and pasted a bunch of stuff into my Custom CSS box in the advanced portion of my settings page, but it doesn't seem to have made much, if any, impact on the incredibly upsetting design overhaul that seems to have taken place overnight here :'( But I don't want to bother her or any of the other admins with my ignorant plebian bullshit. Any tips y'all?

bitwolfy said:
Could you get me a screenshot of the 'cheatsheet' thing? Not quite sure what you are referring to.

Nevermind, it was the 'search help' button modified through span.search-help a {font-size: 0.2em;}. It was so small that I only read the link 'cheatsheet', had to zoom to Earth's core to actually see what it was lol.

In the old design I think it was a '?' mark, or I was too sleepy and was blabbering garbage (I didn't have time to look into the old one yet.

ANOTHER EDIT: You can also keep the 'Description' button in the posts smaller or next to it was before (thinner) with .expandable-header {padding:unset} - don't know if it breaks something else, not tested.

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bitwolfy said:
Kept working for a bit on the possible fixes.

- Implemented a tweaked version of Jaser's header title. It's as close as I can get it to the original one.
- Included the upload page fixes by Peegus
- Fixed the garish pool link colors. They are now a pleasant beige.
- Removed the redundant "Posts" link on the posts page that led to itself
- Gave the post thumbnails their rounded edges back. Just the top ones though.
- Minor tweaks to the tags in the sidebar. Should be pretty close to the original.
- More work done on the position of pool navigation and various notices on the image page.
- Put the ads back in. The ad on the image page is now right above the comment section.
- Changed the weird +FAV button to look exactly like the original Favorite button
- Hopefully made the download button easier to click? Will play around with it more.

Here is the CSS if you want to check it out for youself. https://pastebin.com/NJU6JhPj
Very poorly tested and probably not too friendly for older browsers. Feedback welcome.
Definitely usable through Stylish, haven't tested the built-in custom CSS support yet.

Thanks.
Alas, I'm pretty much at the end of what I can do with CSS when it comes to the pool nav buttons. Moving those back to where they used to be would require me trying to remember Javascript, and I'm not nearly drunk enough for that.
Personally, I've been using the keyboard shortcut keys for navigation (A and D) more than the actual buttons. I wish there were shortcuts for upvoting / downvoting and adding a favorite, but there are none.

This looks amazing so far, thanks. Is it possible you could expand the "Related Tags" (aka the frequent tags section of it) by default like I suggested here?

https://e621.net/forum_topics/25719

I'm asking you since I don't have any hope the "real" devs will ever implement this. This way I don't have to click so much to see my frequent tags.

I would also love it if you can manage to put parent/child posts back into the top-left corner above the search bar and add the "EDIT" button back under an image.

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I would love if we could get something more similar to previous theme. Like Red/Green Favorite button, or the font in tags.

Well, as I don't know how to make a CSS theme without messing everything, I think I'll get used to new theme instead.

bitwolfy said:
e621 Redesign Fixes v.1.29: https://pastebin.com/NJU6JhPj

Highlights:
- Replaced the nonspecific triangle symbol used to designate animated posts with a specific extension. Unfortunately, there is no way to determine the post's extensions except for through the tags anymore. So, if a post is tagged webm, that will be displayed on the thumbnail. flash and mp4 extensions are also supported.

Would checking for filename extensions in the data-file-url fields on search result pages require using JavaScript? It contains the original file's address including .webm, .gif, etc. – could that work? MP4s aren't allowed to be uploaded here, however.
I'm not sure why webm/flash isn't an automatic meta tag yet, anyway – doesn't even rule34.xxx with its disregard for tag aliasing have that?

Does anyone know how to access your quick tags? I cant find them anymore.

kiranoot said:
The theme presented here is a quick conversion of some of the base hexagon theme elements, so it isn't expected that everyone will be happy with it. We are still working on the theme and working on adding support for multiple themes back into the site. It's a large task, so it will take some time to complete.

This thread exists to let you help with changes you'd like to see.

Please keep feedback constructive, as there is nothing actionable in 'I don't like the way it looks.' or 'The colors hurt my eyes.' Instead focus on how these things can be changed to help resolve the problems that you have with the theme. It's also important to remember that it's unlikely that everyone will agree with all changes suggested here, and that some level of compromise will be made, so be civil with others if you disagree with their suggestions. We don't have a way to just snap our fingers and make the site look exactly like it used to, or we would have.

The most helpful thing you can do is to provide CSS snippets that resolve the problems that you have with the theme so that they can be evaluated and integrated into the code base. CSS snippets can be tested from within the advanced user settings.

Suggestions for writing useful CSS rules:

  • Structure your changes around the idea that they are generic and can be applied to many elements instead of only a specific copy on a single page.
  • If your change requires changing class attributes on an element, please list it in your feedback so that it can be added to the element.
  • Colors on the site are mostly based on variables, so if you're using the color of another element, list which element you took the color from. If a new color is needed, please list the color, and how you obtained it(a lighter version of the text color, etc.)
  • If you believe that your change would make a good generic utility function, please specify what you would like to see it used for in the future.

Known caveats of the theme while it is being cleaned up:

  • There is way too much page specific CSS code on the site, and almost all elements are scoped too specifically.
  • There are essentially no class definitions on elements right now. As the theme is cleaned up this should improve.
  • There are some utility classes but they are not well documented or exported. Some of these can be found in the source code, but I don't currently have a list of utility classes to give you.
  • Theme changes are a lower priority than ensuring stability and operation of the site. Please be patient for review and implementation of changes.

Thanks,
~Kira

The new interface suck especialy for pools.
It is nice to navigate within a certain research but I didn't need that I could do it manualy and I still prefer to dit that way..

In return I can't read a comic in a fluid fashion.

Same for parent and child post, I prefer them to be on the top left corner.

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Not gonna lie it went from something good looking and usable to someone that looks like it's being designed by a 6th grader in web design
I'm sorry but the new web design is terrible everything is super cramped and close together and blocky as hell

overall i'm not too happy with this new update.

in my opinion the entire design from the new update actually makes the entire site look a lot older and amateurish, not more modern and neat. it just feels too... monochrome.

the site in general feels harder to navigate as well, though that might just be because of what i was used to before.

i especially don't like the fact that i now can't view the statistics of my comments without actually clicking on each and every post to take a look at them.

when you enter the site now you no longer get to see the homepage with the search bar, but instead you're assulted with all the latest posts. good and bad. the old search page just felt far more calm.

as has been stated in earlier posts on this part of the forum there is a lot of unused space and everything feels more cramped.

that brings me to the next point. the thumbnails (or whatever you wanna call them). they have been scaled down in size to the point where even people with larger moniters have to zoom in on the page, to get a clear image of what they're about to click on. i can only imagine how it is for people on laptops...

all in all i can't see how this new update was supposed to improve the website (make it load faster somehow? i dunno)
it really all just feels like a huge downgrade from what it used to be

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sharkiiie said:
Not sure if this is really the right thread, since it's not directly theme related.

I LOVE that we can search up to 40 tags at a time now.
I HATE that we have an 80k fav cap. Not sure what it was before, but I'm already more than halfway to this cap. In my opinion there should be no limit, or a much higher limit. What with the decreased cache / requests needed for showing a list of users that fav'd a post, maybe put that toward a higher fav cap as well as the new tag search.

Wait, wait, 80k fav cap? That's a big problem for me if that's true
I'm at 78k and I would hate to have to feel like I need to create a new account after 10 years just to favorite more posts.

lonech said:
One major design proposal:

Too much drop shadow. So many boxes have drop shadow and gaps between each other, especially for comments. I don't think it's necessary for the comment section boxes to have drop shadow (also, the Reply surrounding box doesn't have drop shadow so if it goes one way or the other it should at least be consistent). Separating quotes with large width edge boxes was also more than enough i.e. nothing needed to be changed about it. My eyes noticed the second that I got into a post that the page became too cluttered with visuals from these little separations and shadows.

I completely agree with this and am working on a fix.

I'm usually one to try to learn to love the new design rather than trying to find a way to get the old one back (which would be nice), but when I first saw this, I was slightly petrified. One thing I really don't like at all but see on a lot of mainstream websites is the simplistic numbers. I highly prefer "1638" rather than "1.6k".

I'm also not a fan of the title that appears in tabs. "[copyright] [character] drawn by [artist]"... "[artist] [post id]" was better.

It looks horrible, some good designer from dribbble should give them a hand in this

My list of gripes if it helps prioritize things:

-The Popular tab was really helpful in discovering new artists to follow. I hope it comes back.

-Blacklist toggling in searches is gone, why? There are occurrences (usually when searching an artist who makes exceptionally good stuff of a subject I usually don't want to see) where I use that.

-Tabs titles no longer show artist name first, making it more difficult to distinguish them apart.

The lack of a welcome/mascot screen also causes a user not to be able to log in before seeing posts. Which can suck if something they've blacklisted is right there and they forgot they needed to log in.

dzeergy said:
I'm usually one to try to learn to love the new design rather than trying to find a way to get the old one back (which would be nice), but when I first saw this, I was slightly petrified. One thing I really don't like at all but see on a lot of mainstream websites is the simplistic numbers. I highly prefer "1638" rather than "1.6k".

I'm also not a fan of the title that appears in tabs. "[copyright] [character] drawn by [artist]"... "[artist] [post id]" was better.

I am so glad that I'm not the only one who doesn't like the abbreviated numbers! I don't think I've seen anyone else mention this thus far. Also agreed on the change to the titles in tabs.

But, I just wanna say, let's all take a moment to appreciate the peeps putting out CSS code to try and make this trainwreck a little bit better. Much kudos to y'all.

Some of e621's staff seems too arrogant unwilling to admit any fault for the negative reception towards the site change (which I do believe is entirely their fault -and shifting the blame to users is wrong- because they didn't get the message out well enough about the beta and I can make a rant about why if anyone wants but other people have said it all already) so I think our best bet is to let fans who know their way around web design do all they can to make things a bit better. So thanks to everyone who's doing that. The CSS bitwolfy posted seems to be working great for me thus far.

I don't like forced blacklist for unlogged users. No need to login to see NSFW content, even very specific, is the reason why I preferred e621 over FA and now this advantag is just gone. Why you even added forced blacklist? I just don't understand, it would be way more better if you just added blacklist for unlogged users.
Also, I can't add tags straight from the list of tags and that's sad ^(
About design, new design looks awful, and I just want site looking like it was one day before, but I think that y'all are alredy working on that.
Also, is there any reason why you changed API? Just curiousm because there should be.
Right now, the only good thing in the new site that I see is the search suggestions, that's very good and I wanted it, but all other things were better in old site.
Hope that you will fix all the problems and I will be able to use e621 like I was using it one day before, without blood from my eyes.
Good luck!

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The new layout is very bland and cluttered. I miss the old home page with the search bar and mascots. It had a very pleasant minimalist look to it. Plus this new layout has too many things enabled by default, like swiping on images and such. Having to sign in just to view certain things is going to get real old real fast. Also wish that the difference between animation thumbnails and pictures could be a bit more clear. It's also very annoying to have to scroll past the comments to reach the tags. Maybe the classic layout could be available as a theme?

namelesstrashpanda said:
I am so glad that I'm not the only one who doesn't like the abbreviated numbers! I don't think I've seen anyone else mention this thus far. Also agreed on the change to the titles in tabs.

But, I just wanna say, let's all take a moment to appreciate the peeps putting out CSS code to try and make this trainwreck a little bit better. Much kudos to y'all.

Some of e621's staff seems too arrogant unwilling to admit any fault for the negative reception towards the site change (which I do believe is entirely their fault -and shifting the blame to users is wrong- because they didn't get the message out well enough about the beta and I can make a rant about why if anyone wants but other people have said it all already) so I think our best bet is to let fans who know their way around web design do all they can to make things a bit better. So thanks to everyone who's doing that. The CSS bitwolfy posted seems to be working great for me thus far.

As said beforehand, while we won't be able to just run the old layout, we will be improving and fixing this one. We likely won't be able to make it a carbon copy of the old one, but we do plan on getting as close as possible.

As such, the update is not in its final form yet, even if it's here to stay.

sol-dragon said:
Was thinking exactly the same thing, it was a nice front page for the site and being able to pick the mascot was neat. Would love to see it make a return, possibly.

Yeah I miss the home screen too, though I love the new layout on my phone, and the tag autocomplete is great

I am not gonna go through everything here, so sorry if theres doubles.

- The Navbar. Where did all the quick access buttons go? Please bring them back, onto the main page, from where you will need them the most.

- Same as above, bring a "Popular" quick link back into the bar on top.

- I really miss the start page. This way you not only kind of kill the mascots, but its also not a nice thing if you force users to load all the thumbnails first (This is specifically bad for users with datavolume, it takes much more away from you this way).

- The Desktop version is a little wonky. Has scaling issues. I will not explain further, it has already been done by many. Same with the mobile version.

- I personally dislike that the design has become more blocky and sleek. Makes it boring like all the other sides on the web.

- Also, if I noticed it correctly, posts don't show the uploader anymore. Please put that back. I liked seeing other things someone posted, or what they favd.

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Why did we need a new site anyway? Nothing was broken with the old.

My biggest gripe with this is that all my quick-select options are gone (i'e, highlight a textbox and your most recent/popular inputs are presented) also thinks it looks way more cluttered now in general.

Like the new search shortcuts though, those are nice.

notmenotyou said:
As said beforehand, while we won't be able to just run the old layout, we will be improving and fixing this one. We likely won't be able to make it a carbon copy of the old one, but we do plan on getting as close as possible.

As such, the update is not in its final form yet, even if it's here to stay.

Okay. Why?

I've been seeing more defending and user-blaming than any explanation why the site has to look so different for what sounds like a change to the backend. And if something is SO major of a move that it can't be reverted (and it really really should be), then the change needs to be absolutely perfect when it hits the ground running. And then you're blaming the users for having their user experience heavily disrupted. It has the same energy as that one quote from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:

There’s no point in acting surprised about it. All the planning charts and demolition orders have been on display at your local planning department in Alpha Centauri for 50 of your Earth years, so you’ve had plenty of time to lodge any formal complaint and it’s far too late to start making a fuss about it now. … What do you mean you’ve never been to Alpha Centauri? Oh, for heaven’s sake, mankind, it’s only four light years away, you know. I’m sorry, but if you can’t be bothered to take an interest in local affairs, that’s your own lookout. Energize the demolition beams.

And when your official response looks like something out of an absurdist satire, you have messed up. Badly. Like. There's a reason why the quote is supposed to be funny, and that reason seems to be unironically missed here. To explain the joke, the issue is that:

1.) There has been a MAJOR change.
2.) The scale of the change is irreversible.
3.) Access to the notice of said changes is obscure.
4.) The lead up time to the change is minuscule relative to its severity.
5.) Blaming the people subject to the change when your finger is the one on the button.
6.) A complete lack of touch as to how the affected party finds, uses, digests, and reacts to info.
7.) The offending party's intent being very transparently about furthering their own goals rather than to the benefit of the receiving party.

Revert the changes. It's not ready yet. And if you think that is too much of huge change for a dumb and counter productive reason, well, welcome to the club.

The fastest way to kill any site, market, franchise, or brand is to ignore the users when they are at their most vocal. The users use the site. It's for them to use. The users know how they like using the thing they use. And if the thing they like using can't be used the same way it used to be, they will obviously complain. The admins' and devs' opinions are more or less irrelevant since the site isn't just for them; it's for the users.

Please, don't blame the users for wanting the site for being something usable.

notmenotyou said:
As said beforehand, while we won't be able to just run the old layout, we will be improving and fixing this one. We likely won't be able to make it a carbon copy of the old one, but we do plan on getting as close as possible.

As such, the update is not in its final form yet, even if it's here to stay.

Hey so I'm just curious about the logistics of it, why would the old theme not work on the new backend? What's stopping it? Any chance you could open source the old theme and let people try to fix it maybe?

e621 Redesign Fixes v.1.33: https://pastebin.com/NJU6JhPj

Highlights:
- Re-colored the forum posts to the same color as comments. Not sure why it was different to begin with.
- Got rid of a bunch of drop shadows, replacing them with a solid color border. Let me know what you think.
- Streamline and stretch the comment and forum textboxes a bit
- Minor tweaks to the search and blacklist help links
- Recolored the favorites button in the sidebar to match the one under the image
- Bugfix: The edit link above the comments is back. Unfortunately, so is the redundant Posts link. Oh well.

nonono2 said:
Nevermind, it was the 'search help' button modified through span.search-help a {font-size: 0.2em;}. It was so small that I only read the link 'cheatsheet', had to zoom to Earth's core to actually see what it was lol.

In the old design I think it was a '?' mark, or I was too sleepy and was blabbering garbage (I didn't have time to look into the old one yet.

ANOTHER EDIT: You can also keep the 'Description' button in the posts smaller or next to it was before (thinner) with .expandable-header {padding:unset} - don't know if it breaks something else, not tested.

Ah, I see what you mean.
The old design had "search help" set to font size of 60%. 0.2em is a bit overdoing it, so I set it to 0.8em
I've replaced the "blacklist help" with a "(?)" link for the time being, just to see how it looks, and I kind of like it. It's a bit unintuitive, but that really does not matter, since the link 404s anyways. For some reason, it's set to /help/blacklists instead of /help/blacklist which is really unhelpful.

blacklistbaron said:
This looks amazing so far, thanks. Is it possible you could expand the "Related Tags" (aka the frequent tags section of it) by default like I suggested here?

https://e621.net/forum_topics/25719

I'm asking you since I don't have any hope the "real" devs will ever implement this. This way I don't have to click so much to see my frequent tags.

I would also love it if you can manage to put parent/child posts back into the top-left corner above the search bar and add the "EDIT" button back under an image.

Thanks for the feedback!
Unfortunately, I can't do either of these things at the moment, since I am only using CSS.

The related tags aren't just hidden by default. They only get loaded in when you click on the corresponding link, so I literally don't have anything to expand there.

I have been working on changing the way parent/child posts look, but moving them to where they used to be before would require Javascript.

The edit link should be back in the newest version, though. It accidentally got removed due to a bug on my part, sorry.

helloanonmyoldfriend said:
Would checking for filename extensions in the data-file-url fields on search result pages require using JavaScript? It contains the original file's address including .webm, .gif, etc. – could that work? MP4s aren't allowed to be uploaded here, however.
I'm not sure why webm/flash isn't an automatic meta tag yet, anyway – doesn't even rule34.xxx with its disregard for tag aliasing have that?

Yep, that would need javascript. CSS isn't a scripting language, it would require javascript. There used to be data-file-ext, but for some strange reason, that got removed.
Didn't know about mp4. It was in the existing code, so I left it in.

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celadonsissy said:
Okay. Why?

I've been seeing more defending and user-blaming than any explanation why the site has to look so different for what sounds like a change to the backend. And if something is SO major of a move that it can't be reverted (and it really really should be), then the change needs to be absolutely perfect when it hits the ground running. And then you're blaming the users for having their user experience heavily disrupted. It has the same energy as that one quote from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
And when your official response looks like something out of an absurdist satire, you have messed up. Badly. Like. There's a reason why the quote is supposed to be funny, and that reason seems to be unironically missed here. To explain the joke, the issue is that:

1.) There has been a MAJOR change.
2.) The scale of the change is irreversible.
3.) Access to the notice of said changes is obscure.
4.) The lead up time to the change is minuscule relative to its severity.
5.) Blaming the people subject to the change when your finger is the one on the button.
6.) A complete lack of touch as to how the affected party finds, uses, digests, and reacts to info.
7.) The offending party's intent being very transparently about furthering their own goals rather than to the benefit of the receiving party.

Revert the changes. It's not ready yet. And if you think that is too much of huge change for a dumb and counter productive reason, well, welcome to the club.

The fastest way to kill any site, market, franchise, or brand is to ignore the users when they are at their most vocal. The users use the site. It's for them to use. The users know how they like using the thing they use. And if the thing they like using can't be used the same way it used to be, they will obviously complain. The admins' and devs' opinions are more or less irrelevant since the site isn't just for them; it's for the users.

Please, don't blame the users for wanting the site for being something usable.

Took the words right out of my mouth.

Hi, add this rule to the site, this will get favorite buttons back

a#remove-from-favorites {
display: inline-block;
color: white;
font-weight: bold;
background-color: red;
padding: 2px 4px;
border-radius: 5px;
box-shadow: 1px 1px 1px darkred;
}

a#add-to-favorites {
display: inline-block;
color: white;
font-weight: bold;
background-color: green;
padding: 2px 4px;
border-radius: 5px;
box-shadow: 1px 1px 1px darkgreen;
}
https://i.imgur.com/XXEC4uQ.png
https://i.imgur.com/8Mgz3UZ.png
Thanks!

Edit: Aslo, add a class or ID to the Rating to give it a color, or wrap it on a <span> tag (Rating: <span id="post-rating-safe">$rating</span>)

1) The Favorite/Unfavorite button no longer has its green/red highlight, making it harder to see.

2) The font color for the Pools page is very difficult to read against the background. this may be just me, since i'm colorblind though. The Sets Page is much better to look at and i can't see why they should be visually different in this way.

3) The Popular Page is hidden away behind the Hot Page, which it shouldn't be. Hot just redirects to order:rank anyways

4) Even though there are some nice new functionalities with the redesign (hotkeys to navigate through pools for instance) the actual DESIGN of the redesign is an artistic letdown. Maybe take visual inspiration from the old design (which was iconic) in terms of font/background color, element spacing, ect. It's not like the old design couldnt use some polish, and i dont think you should just recreate what this site used to be pixel for pixel, but what we have now is considerably worse on the eyes.

5) Make it so the hotkeys can be configured in more detail. the browser extension I used to use allowed you to pick and choose what keys did what, so if you're going to incorporate hotkeys, go all the way.

6) I dont like that the tab name for any piece of art is "Character (Copyright) drawn by Artist". it's clunky and unnessesary.

7) I'd like to say that i personally think the redesign is a good thing. Clearly it isn't close to finished and i can't imagine why you released it so early, but its got potential, and it seems like the backend of things is capable of alot more. Keep in mind that people like options, so try not to remove features without having a setting to bring them back. *Cough* homepage *Cough*

I can personally deal with pretty much everything the new changes to the UI brought, but I really want the "+/- Favorite" sidebar button colorbox back (Green when you hadn't favorited it yet and Red when you already favorited it)

celadonsissy said:
7.) The offending party's intent being very transparently about furthering their own goals rather than to the benefit of the receiving party.

This really sounds like the major issue to me. Everything was working fine with the previous version, people were happy, and we got a sudden change nobody asked, and when the question of "Why was it needed?" comes on the table, there is no clear answer, aside from an evasive one saying that users are to blame because they didn't give feedback.

For example, take the forced blacklist for non-registered users.
Not only it will prevent users from finding pictures they might like, regardless of their fetishes, but it will also hurt artists working mostly on a blacklisted theme, robbing them of the exposure they should have when it comes to guests. It is safe to assume most people browsing e621 don't have an account, and won't bother to make one to have access to the entire collection of pictures.
Even more concerning, someone into a blacklisted fetish may completely miss the fact that they can't find what they are looking for because they're not aware that there is an uneditable blacklist for guests.
Also, on a moral note, it feels kinda wrong to consider that some fetishes are sub-par and should be hidden while other fetishes don't suffer from such discrimination.
Again, I'm not defending the blacklisted fetishes themselves, but I really don't understand why it was intentionally implemented on a whim, with said blacklist being incoherent since it doesn't nearly involve all the fetishes that could be considered as "extreme and/or offensive".

And when a thread is created to discuss the matter, it gets locked without proper explanation of why it was necessary to enforce this blacklist, or at least given a few reasons why they did it.

I don't know if it's a terrible lack of communication, or if transparancy regarding users is the least of the administration team's concern, but it feels like our interrogations are ignored, if not our feedback.

nukedukemii said:
This really sounds like the major issue to me. Everything was working fine with the previous version, people were happy, and we got a sudden change nobody asked, and when the question of "Why was it needed?" comes on the table, there is no clear answer, aside from an evasive one saying that users are to blame because they didn't give feedback.

For example, take the forced blacklist for non-registered users.
Not only it will prevent users from finding pictures they might like, regardless of their fetishes, but it will also hurt artists working mostly on a blacklisted theme, robbing them of the exposure they should have when it comes to guests. It is safe to assume most people browsing e621 don't have an account, and won't bother to make one to have access to the entire collection of pictures.
Even more concerning, someone into a blacklisted fetish may completely miss the fact that they can't find what they are looking for because they're not aware that there is an uneditable blacklist for guests.
Also, on a moral note, it feels kinda wrong to consider that some fetishes are sub-par and should be hidden while other fetishes don't suffer from such discrimination.
Again, I'm not defending the blacklisted fetishes themselves, but I really don't understand why it was intentionally implemented on a whim, with said blacklist being incoherent since it doesn't nearly involve all the fetishes that could be considered as "extreme and/or offensive".

And when a thread is created to discuss the matter, it gets locked without proper explanation of why it was necessary to enforce this blacklist, or at least given a few reasons why they did it.

I don't know if it's a terrible lack of communication, or if transparancy regarding users is the least of the administration team's concern, but it feels like our interrogations are ignored, if not our feedback.

The main reason for the change was to get away from an archaic code base that was hampering performance as the site's user base continued to grow. From what I've heard, keeping the old ui exactly as it was before the update was impossible.

I'm sorry, but this is literally unusable for me. Others probably mentioned all I'm about to point out here, but whatever.

The general design is ugly. I saw better looking and more functional layouts done in my high-school's 90 minute IT classes and for cracked Minecraft servers. Responsive web was literally thrown out the window when this was made.

- There is no background anymore. The tiled hexagons gave it a unique look, now all I see is shades of blue. Give it more colors and shapes for god's sake, we aren't in MSDOS here.
- Separating the e621 link in the navbar was unnecessary, especially since it's literally text, not even a logo of some sorts. The rest of the navigation is alright, although it looks bland just like everything else.
- Search suggestions are probably the only part of this update I can commend, but why is the search button on the right so off?
- The tags' font makes them a bit hard to read.
- Coming back to responsive web, there needs to be a limit to how much the page can be stretched. It's literally impossible for me to use my multi-display setup in fullscreen.
- The post list's images should be have more vertical space between them.
- You actually added the pool nav, but it's just horrid to use. It's purple on blue (-_-) and blends in with the search nav. You should place it back where it was.
- Font sizes are all over the place. Some texts are literally half the size of the rest while being just as important.
- The hell is that +Fav button? Also, where did our helpful green/red favorite button go? Why are there 2 favorite buttons now? Remove that abomination and place it back where it was.
- Coming back to font sizes, why is the description so big, but the comments so tiny?
- (Edit) Why are our white forum posts highlighted in white?

Just imagine a newcomer here. This looks like someone tried to recreate 4chan, but failed in every aspect.

koder said:
I noticed the resize option is gone.

For image scaling when viewing a post, or somewhere else?

peegus said:
The main reason for the change was to get away from an archaic code base that was hampering performance as the site's user base continued to grow. From what I've heard, keeping the old ui exactly as it was before the update was impossible.

Now that's progress, I believe a lot of people wouldn't be so mad if they were given actual reasons why the transition happened.
Nonetheless, the transition was handled in a terrible way, blaming regular users pretending that the result of the general dissatisfaction originates from a lack of feedback from said users is a poor attempt at dodging responsibility in such a decision.

Also, the forced guest blacklist wasn't a necessary change related to the code base, is it? Why was it necessary, knowing that making an option to toggle it off without resorting to a login would be a perfectly viable, and more user-friendly option?

anu

Member

These are all for the Desktop version, with mobile support disabled.

Complaints:
The font feels larger - is it spaced out more from frames? I'm not sure but it doesn't sit right with me anymore.

The blacklist is expanded by default and doesn't have a way to collapse it. It should be collapsed by default. I think being reminded of whatever things are being blocked half-defeats the purpose of blocking them.

New "Previous" and "Next" buttons at the top of the page are distracting. If you must keep them as an impossibly long bar, instead of the top left, They would be better suited under the image, same with the "Pending Approval" message.

On that note, I think the long bar is ridiculous for desktop. I understand wanting selections being further apart on mobile devices, where you want to ensure choices aren't squeezed together to prevent accidental 'clicks'. But on a desktop? That's a massively silly distance to move your mouse for browsing. I'm not even sure if folks want to browse images not in a specific Pool, but I won't discredit the idea simply because it doesn't appeal to me.

Suggestions:
Put the Back/Next buttons under the title/Search Term. That way you have all the space you want to display the search terms used, or the title of the pool, while still having sensible placement for the navigation buttons.

Also I would separate the different navigation sections between Search Terms Used and Pools. As it is, you use a font is used to help differentiate between the two. (A purple one which is hard to read on the light blue background used in the frame.)

To help visualize things, I chopped up a random SFW post that had both search terms and a pool.

https://i.imgur.com/8AqaoCJ.png

Relevant information has a tighter fitting frame and fits comfortably below the image. I changed the Pool font colour for legibility while also keeping it different from the search font colour. Though I'm not sold on yellow, it simply served for high contrast but may be a problem for people who are yellow/blue colourblind.

I also shrunk the size of the massive Fav button.

I hope this feedback helps.

watsit said:
That's what the beta was for. There was a news alert about it last month. People didn't care to look because they were too busy fapping on a porn site. There was a sticky thread about it in the forums too, but people don't go there because this is a porn site for porning on, not discussing things unrelated to porn drawnings. So when it became go time and the new site went live, they were shocked, shocked I tell you, that the beta they didn't provide feedback for didn't get their feedback.

Yeah, sorry for using a porn site to view porn for the purpose of enjoying porn, silly me.

I genuinely missed the beta alert, and that may have been a failing on my part. But I don't go to the main page here, I immediately go to my favourites where I browse my preferred artists there. If the news post was only on the "https://e621.net/" front page section, then for my purposes and use of the site, I would've entirely missed it. If it was shown elsewhere, then... I dunno what to tell you. I also don't use the forums here, cause again, I don't use this site for that purpose.

If I had known that the beta was coming, I would've happily provided feedback and been involved from start to finish. Unfortunately, it went completely beyond me. So when I see other users getting upset about the sudden changes, I can see how they feel. I had no idea this was coming either, and while I'm not exactly pleased by it all, I am reasonable enough to know the back end of the site was an important component that needed changes. But others would rather ignore that for the sake of a few days/weeks of inconvenience, going as far as to fall Kira a "massive fucking dick" as one user put it.

How unbelievably excessive. People who live in glass houses, and all that jazz. Either way, I'm looking forward to the changes. And to help provide some feedback...

- While I don't have any CSS skill, I do echo the suggestion to have posts and favourites all have a universal location for the upvote, downvote part of the post, rather than have it be based on the size of the post thumbnail. The bars below the post thumbnail should be the constant variable, not the top part of the thumbnail's height.
- Also, I feel the e621 text on the top left should mesh a bit more with the navigation bar so it doesn't drop the height of everything so much.
- I'm also unsure of having comment boxes stretch to the edge of the browser window, something about it bugs me. But that might just be a me thing.
- The shadowing on the search bar goes over the magnifying glass icon below it, which probably shouldn't be doing that. Perhaps the magnifying glass can go beside the search bar? If not, then the shadow just needs a fix I think.
- Lastly, the big [Fav] box thing is just... incredibly out of place visually. Especially when there's a favourite and unfavourite option already below the Options side of the post. It can still be there beside the download option, but... it needs to be the same kind of text as the rest I think. Or having the colour come back to the favourite/unfavourite part below the Option section so it stands out more.

Besides that, I'm pretty ok with the changes I've seen so far. Then again, I'm not a power user, so I can't speak for how others feel about some of the changes in parts of the site I haven't even seen before.

Hope my feedback helps a little either way!

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mabit said:
I've decided to post this here, since I'd think that it's more of an aesthetic issue and not a straight up bug or anything

The https://e621.net/comments page used to have a "Comments on your posts" link
The link is still in the profile page and everything still works perfectly, it's just that the link was removed from the main "Comments" tab

Really not sure if it's just a minor oversight with the new layout, or an intentional change. It's such a tiny thing that wouldn't be reported in the Intentional Changes thread but I decided to post about it here just in case

Heyo Mabit!
I'd like to up this comment, cuz it's one of the few features I genuinely used a lot to keep track of comments on the stuff I post, please return it back into the comment tab if possible <3

It would be nice if the button that shows the larger image and the download button would be above teh image, to not scroll past the image.
It would also be cool if teh download button would open the picture in the same tab, as opposed to opening a new one.
Also, since (on my screen) the right half of all image pages is just background color, we could have all comments and the description to the right side and have them move down when enlarging the picture

Maybe even the option to generally change the theme color. i used stylebot to change the entire background to #141414 and most text boxes or foreground pieces are #1c1c1c
example: https://i.imgur.com/cRVKdXY.png

Is there any way to contribute more directly to the team? I am a Full Stack developer that specializes in frontend and Ux design. I would love to work on e621- if permitted.

BIG ISSUE: even after I’ve disabled the mobile features, I can’t sort my favorites by recently added anymore. I have no clue how it’s arranged now but it just seems like they’ve been randomized. Usually I’m trying to navigate this website quickly, but now I can’t do that because everything got scrambled and I can’t even pick specific pages anymore! As well as that, I can no longer differentiate between a gif and a webm from the listing, which is terrible because I can’t play webms on mobile and I use e621 exclusively on my iPhone. Please change it back, we were all content. :(

Made an account just to put in my 2 cents.

I don't like how some animated posts are hidden,unless you change the size mode from sample, until you click on it to change the size ratio. I find it very annoying to keep doing that.-unsure if this was complained about already-

bitwolfy said:
Thanks for the feedback!
Unfortunately, I can't do either of these things at the moment, since I am only using CSS.

The related tags aren't just hidden by default. They only get loaded in when you click on the corresponding link, so I literally don't have anything to expand there.

I have been working on changing the way parent/child posts look, but moving them to where they used to be before would require Javascript.

The edit link should be back in the newest version, though. It accidentally got removed due to a bug on my part, sorry.

No problem and thanks for the heads up. While I'm done tagging for now thanks to the broken redesign I have bookmarked your pastebin page and am looking forwards to future updates as it makes at least normal browsing enjoyable again.

bitz said:
Is there any way to contribute more directly to the team? I am a Full Stack developer that specializes in frontend and Ux design. I would love to work on e621- if permitted.

Same here. At the moment, the best thing to do is contribute fixes or improvements in this thread the way kira outlined in the op. Admins are definitely watching this thread for stuff like that

motherofech said:
Yeah, sorry for using a porn site to view porn for the purpose of enjoying porn, silly me.

I genuinely missed the beta alert, and that may have been a failing on my part. But I don't go to the main page here, I immediately go to my favourites where I browse my preferred artists there. If the news post was only on the "https://e621.net/" front page section, then for my purposes and use of the site, I would've entirely missed it. If it was shown elsewhere, then... I dunno what to tell you. I also don't use the forums here, cause again, I don't use this site for that purpose.

The news banner is at the top of every page on the site (until you click Dismiss, where it'll disappear until a new news item is added and it reappears). I don't use the front page either, I go right to specific searches to see what's new with things of interest and had no problem noticing it. I can sympathize if some people genuinely missed it, but at the same time it's not the site's fault either when it's trying to tell people what's going on and they're admittedly too busy looking at porn to see it (not just you, I see many people saying they just come here to fap and can't be bothered with the news or forums or anything).

motherofech said:
If I had known that the beta was coming, I would've happily provided feedback and been involved from start to finish. Unfortunately, it went completely beyond me.

Luckily this is not the end of it. They're still accepting feedback so if you really want to help, they're listening. Just read what they've already said (i.e. try to give solutions instead of just saying something isn't good, don't just ask for the old site/layout back, etc), be polite, and they'll do what they can when they get the time, keeping in mind that more critical issues need to be dealt with first before quality of life stuff, and there aren't any full-time paid developers working on this.

As it is, you may want to check out what some people are doing in the post right under yours, collecting CSS changes that are trying to fix the more glaring visual issues (which can hopefully be incorporated into the site's default theme as things progress). You can actually apply those changes right now by copying the provided CSS into the Custom CSS Style under your account's advanced settings.

celadonsissy said:
The fastest way to kill any site, market, franchise, or brand is to ignore the users when they are at their most vocal. The users use the site. It's for them to use. The users know how they like using the thing they use. And if the thing they like using can't be used the same way it used to be, they will obviously complain. The admins' and devs' opinions are more or less irrelevant since the site isn't just for them; it's for the users.

Please, don't blame the users for wanting the site for being something usable.

I feel like that kind of cuts right to the heart of it. While I'm willing to be patient and wait for improvements, I think that if you felt like you weren't getting enough feedback on the beta and knew loads of people were going to freak out over the update, a much better course of action would have been to do something to grab the entire userbase's attention before rolling out a non-revertable update like this. Something as simple as a message in bright red text on the home screen almost everyone seems to miss saying something like "HEY, LISTEN! We're planning a massive overhaul to the site soon, if you want to try the beta version and give some feedback on it before it goes live, check the news post for more info!" That would actually have been noticed by more than a tiny fraction of the userbase, and gotten you all the feedback you could have ever needed, and then some.

That, of course, should have been followed up by not actually rolling out the update for the site until everyone was more or less satisfied with the state of the beta, no matter how long it took. Even if you had cause to hurry the change along, I repeat my earlier sentiment of starting a patreon for the site, or adding a donate button or something in order to raise funds to hire people to work on it. While it's inevitable some people would call you beggars or whatever, you'd be surprised how many people are probably willing to throw money at you for the sake of keeping the site running smoothly and free for everyone. All you have to do is let us know you need help, and people will help.

Just remember that the reason so many users are upset is because we love the site, and don't like the dramatic shift in it's design and identity because we're afraid that, like so many major changes we've had to deal with elsewhere, it might be a warning sign that something we love is going to abandon everything we loved about it. Someone brought up things like EA and Warcraft III: Reforged, and I can understand why. Even if you make a change with the best of intentions, if you don't go out of your way to do everything you can (certainly more than a post on the forums most users don't frequent and a news post that most people will miss since news posts have almost never contained anything relevant to most users' interests, resulting in them being largely ignored) to get opinions of as many of the users as possible and make adjustments based on their feedback before making any major changes, you're inviting disaster, and have nobody to blame but yourselves.

Seriously, to the staff that had a hand in this, I'm sorry if it upsets you to hear it, but the fact is that doing things the way you did and then blaming the userbase for not providing enough feedback and basically implying we have no right to be angry at you is like punching a wasp nest and then getting mad at the wasps for stinging you: prudent application of a little common sense on your end could have avoided problems on all sides. Taking on your share of the blame for not thinking things through (preferably not in the same breath as trying to shift blame back on the userbase) would go a long way towards calming the more angry users down a bit. I mean, y'know, unless you think your pride is more important than e621's reputation.

I tried adding

<style id="blacklisted-hider">.post-preview, #image-container, #c-comments .post, .mod-queue-preview.post-preview, .post-thumbnail{display: default !important;}</style>

to my custom CSS, but it's not working. Do you just provide replacement values, or is there some special format that isn't the same as the style tag in HTML?

One thing that bothers me is that the "next" and "previous" buttons are at the top of the image in the mobile version.
Leads to alot of scrolling down to look properly at the bottom of the image and then back up to move along.
Having them at the bottom of the image would make them more convenient.

alphamule said:
I tried adding

<style id="blacklisted-hider">.post-preview, #image-container, #c-comments .post, .mod-queue-preview.post-preview, .post-thumbnail{display: default !important;}</style>

to my custom CSS, but it's not working. Do you just provide replacement values, or is there some special format that isn't the same as the style tag in HTML?

Are you adding that to a css file, or injecting it directly into an html page? If it's in a css file, you don't need the opening and closing style tags.

My only complaint thus far is how your blacklist will show up on the left, and there's no way to collapse/hide it. I kinda don't want to be reminded of the content in my blacklist, even if it's just the tags I don't want to see.

have the usernames always been below the avatar? if not that's a really weird change.

My biggest complains are the fact that my userscripts are now useless due to the completely different interface, which are definitely not going to be remade anytime soon (especially Esix Extend), and that my favorites aren't sorted by the date I've added them, but by the date when they've been uploaded, resulting in many old favorites coming up on the front page.

I really hope all of this will be smoothed out in the long run, since there is a lot to fix.

randomguy85 said:
My biggest complains are the fact that my userscripts are now useless due to the completely different interface, which are definitely not going to be remade anytime soon (especially Esix Extend), and that my favorites aren't sorted by the date I've added them, but by the date when they've been uploaded, resulting in many old favorites coming up on the front page.

I really hope all of this will be smoothed out in the long run, since there is a lot to fix.

The favorites bug is being worked on.

kiranoot said:
The theme presented here is a quick conversion of some of the base hexagon theme elements, so it isn't expected that everyone will be happy with it. We are still working on the theme and working on adding support for multiple themes back into the site. It's a large task, so it will take some time to complete.

This thread exists to let you help with changes you'd like to see.

Please keep feedback constructive, as there is nothing actionable in 'I don't like the way it looks.' or 'The colors hurt my eyes.' Instead focus on how these things can be changed to help resolve the problems that you have with the theme. It's also important to remember that it's unlikely that everyone will agree with all changes suggested here, and that some level of compromise will be made, so be civil with others if you disagree with their suggestions. We don't have a way to just snap our fingers and make the site look exactly like it used to, or we would have.

The most helpful thing you can do is to provide CSS snippets that resolve the problems that you have with the theme so that they can be evaluated and integrated into the code base. CSS snippets can be tested from within the advanced user settings.

Suggestions for writing useful CSS rules:

  • Structure your changes around the idea that they are generic and can be applied to many elements instead of only a specific copy on a single page.
  • If your change requires changing class attributes on an element, please list it in your feedback so that it can be added to the element.
  • Colors on the site are mostly based on variables, so if you're using the color of another element, list which element you took the color from. If a new color is needed, please list the color, and how you obtained it(a lighter version of the text color, etc.)
  • If you believe that your change would make a good generic utility function, please specify what you would like to see it used for in the future.

Known caveats of the theme while it is being cleaned up:

  • There is way too much page specific CSS code on the site, and almost all elements are scoped too specifically.
  • There are essentially no class definitions on elements right now. As the theme is cleaned up this should improve.
  • There are some utility classes but they are not well documented or exported. Some of these can be found in the source code, but I don't currently have a list of utility classes to give you.
  • Theme changes are a lower priority than ensuring stability and operation of the site. Please be patient for review and implementation of changes.

Thanks,
~Kira

great layout, I just wish the favorite button was highlighted.

Updated by NotMeNotYou

The new location of the "parent/child post" stuff is way worse. Having it up on the top, next to other metadata like artist tags, meant it was in a place where you saw it immediately and knew right away if there was other content related to it.

Now it's this teensy tiny little thing that is not only hidden down beneath the image, so you usually have to scroll down to see it, but also it's sandwiched between the larger image controls+fav button, and the comments. This is going to lead to users not realizing posts actually have parent/child posts. Is the parent/child system being sidelined? If so, why? It seems to me like it's a very important organizational function of the site. It belongs right up at the top, next to the tags and search box where it is attention grabbing and easily findable.

I really not a fan of the changes to to the "post_tag_history" page (or i guess it's the "post_versions" page now). The fact that &limit=300 no longer works and posts no longer highlight when you click on them is potentially going to make trying to fix the tag edits of serial mistaggers and/or bad tag scripts more annoying. The fact that you can narrow down searches again may alleviate this somewhat, we'll see.

peegus said:
For image scaling when viewing a post, or somewhere else?

For scaling the image so it's smaller.

Also, I really really hate having favorites appear in the order posts were uploaded, rather than the order I favorited them in! I would favorite certain things in a row so that they would be clustered together in my favorites, and looking back at my favorites I could see when I found certain artwork and artists. Now it's all a mess.

e: apparently this was a bug and has been fixed, I was under the impression it was an intentional change to cut down on storage.

kiranoot said:
It's amazing how I can tell who didn't read the opening post at all by them all asking for an option to use the old UI. I even said that I would have not changed the UI at all if that had ever been an option. But it wasn't.

But why not? The old UI was strictly functional.

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koder said:
For scaling the image so it's smaller.

Found it. It was moved under the images instead of the far left side.

notmenotyou said:
We likely won't be able to make it a carbon copy of the old one, but we do plan on getting as close as possible.

As such, the update is not in its final form yet, even if it's here to stay.

This is honestly what I want to hear from the beginning. Maybe there should have been more testing beforehand to make sure the layout wasn't as sloppy, but as long as that's the goal, then I can at least rest a little easier. Any big layout updates should also be thrown into the header so that everybody can stay updated.

I'm still a no-go on the automated blacklist, though. That absolutely 100% needs to go. Outside of toddlercon, Paheal prides itself on keeping their site as open as possible when it comes to what can be seen on the surface, so why can't e6?

The only thing I don't like is the fact you can't hide the Blacklisted tag list on the mobile version of the site. If there is a way to hide that list I haven't been able to figure it out. It's kind of annoying having the a Blacklisted tags show up above the non Blacklisted tags and not have a way to hide them.

bruh_momento said:
This is honestly what I want to hear from the beginning. Maybe there should have been more testing beforehand to make sure the layout wasn't as sloppy, but as long as that's the goal, then I can at least rest a little easier. Any big layout updates should also be thrown into the header so that everybody can stay updated.

I'm still a no-go on the automated blacklist, though. That absolutely 100% needs to go. Outside of toddlercon, Paheal prides itself on keeping their site as open as possible when it comes to what can be seen on the surface, so why can't e6?

Not everyone wants to be greeted with niche fetish art that they don't like, especially if it's their first time to e621. It would be better to be given a default blacklist first then you can change it to your liking after. Although I personally disagree with needing an account for that.

This hurts me, I miss the home page already, i loved all the mascots.
This feels way to drab now , its lacking the life it had before
Way to plain and one of the worse shades of blue. ( its already giving me a headache)
Please! Please for the love of all things art and porn give us a way to see it as it was before

noiverus said:
Not everyone wants to be greeted with niche fetish art that they don't like, especially if it's their first time to e621. It would be better to be given a default blacklist first then you can change it to your liking after. Although I personally disagree with needing an account for that.

Presenting people with the blacklist for them to edit their first time, and then saving it in cookies so it doesn't require an account to disable/change would be a lot better, yeah.

Although I would also argue that even 'vanilla' furry porn is niche fetish material and most furries have a pretty thick skin when it comes to that kinda thing.
Basically the only things that should be in a default blacklist, if such a thing should even exist, should be snuff, gore, fart, scat and vomit.

mairo said:
Also the beta was online for MONTHS before this change got live with news and pinned forum topics, including asking for help with the layout already and only NOW people start going that everything is bad when it's already go time.

Ok, but your average user is not going to read news and definitely never going to look at the forums. This is a website most people use for porn. Who's going to read website news on a porn site?

Like, the 'news' dropdowns have always been totally meaningless to me so of course I'm in a habit of just clicking dismiss, and why would I check the forums?
This feels like you have no idea how the average user uses your website. I'm on e621 basically every day and I had no idea this was coming. And I think from the response here as well as on other sites it's clear I'm far from alone in that.

I'm not a fan of the new layout.

The bad (which I have noticed): The new Nav-bar for going to the next page in a pool is a pain in the ass to use on mobile, and I would assume it is on pc as well. Many people already said this, but RIP homescreen, not really sure why it was removed. Also, favorites and posts are vertical now? So now I have to scroll to check how my most recent posts are being received rather than just seeing them upon loading up my profile

The good (Which I have noticed): It's a little faster to move to the next post on mobile, but I really don't see why the two are so far spaced apart.