JoeX said:
They're trying to get rid of Net Neutrality. This gives ISPs the ability to block certain websites and slow down Internet connections. I'm worried that it will affect sites like e621.

United_Gamers said:
Okay yeah sarcasm done, really The end of Net Neutrality was the single worse idea ever, my hope is that after the blocking and throttling happens that every single person gets pissed off and starts writing emails for the reinstatement of NN and the subsequent firing Ajit Pai for being such an utter fool on this topic.

fox_whisper85 said:
Getting rid of Net Neutrality is something those FCC jerk offs and other liberals have been aiming for a long time. Throttling connection speeds, forcing higher fees for unrestricted access, censoring things that ISPs don't like. The fact Comcast is behind it (which owns MSNBC, which is a liberal-leaning news outlet), AT&T, Verizon). What amazes me the most, is either people don't seem to care, or don't know how much it can impact the internet as we know it.

Mark my words, the end of net neutrality (except it doesn't actually exist right now) will not have any appreciable effect on e621, FurAffinity, etc.

ISPs already block certain websites, that has little to do with NN. "Pay to unblock your site" is a scheme that is unlikely to be attempted or succeed. The closest thing to this is Facebook's Free Basics which provides a limited number of web services to subsidized dirt poor Internet users.

You already have bandwidth caps in most cases, and possibly across the board throttling if you reach the cap. Wired Internet users likely experience throttling of video services like Netflix. So NN does not exist at certain ISPs under that definition. You can check Netflix's report to see which ISPs are better for Netflix. Look at the top of the list. Wow, it's the evil Comcast!

Changes to NN policy won't have much of an effect on wired Internet users. It will have the biggest impact on phone wireless Internet users. Wireless bandwidth is much more costly to deliver and phone carriers have tried out schemes like T-Mobile's Binge On to "zero rate" bandwidth consumption from certain video services. It's anti-NN, but it means you can use more data than before if use an approved service. What pissed people off more was T-Mobile degrading YouTube stream quality with no opt-out. That changed after YouTube partnered with T-Mobile for Binge On and assumed control of stream quality. If you don't like it, use a real unlimited wireless service (check reviews to make sure it is actually unlimited with nothing in the fine print) or buy bandwidth gigabyte-by-gigabyte from something like Google's MVNO, Project Fi.

There is a lot of kool-aid out there on net neutrality. The takeaway is this. If you have a faster Internet connection with high or no cap, net neutrality becomes irrelevant to you because you can't even use your full speed unless you torrent hundreds of gigabytes of files all day every day. 100 megabit and gigabit connections are much cheaper and easier to find than they were years ago. You may be boned if you live in a rural area, but Microsoft has just pledged to take this on using wireless TV white spaces. On phone wireless, you have tight caps and throttling and that is unlikely to change anytime soon. But Project Fi and other resellers are offering a fair deal and you can use Wi-Fi to get around cap and throttling problems.

Lance_Armstrong said:
Mark my words, the end of net neutrality (except it doesn't actually exist right now) will not have any appreciable effect on e621, FurAffinity, etc.

ISPs already block certain websites, that has little to do with NN. "Pay to unblock your site" is a scheme that is unlikely to be attempted or succeed. The closest thing to this is Facebook's Free Basics which provides a limited number of web services to subsidized dirt poor Internet users.

You already have bandwidth caps in most cases, and possibly across the board throttling if you reach the cap. Wired Internet users likely experience throttling of video services like Netflix. So NN does not exist at certain ISPs under that definition. You can check Netflix's report to see which ISPs are better for Netflix. Look at the top of the list. Wow, it's the evil Comcast!

Changes to NN policy won't have much of an effect on wired Internet users. It will have the biggest impact on phone wireless Internet users. Wireless bandwidth is much more costly to deliver and phone carriers have tried out schemes like T-Mobile's Binge On to "zero rate" bandwidth consumption from certain video services. It's anti-NN, but it means you can use more data than before if use an approved service. What pissed people off more was T-Mobile degrading YouTube stream quality with no opt-out. That changed after YouTube partnered with T-Mobile for Binge On and assumed control of stream quality. If you don't like it, use a real unlimited wireless service (check reviews to make sure it is actually unlimited with nothing in the fine print) or buy bandwidth gigabyte-by-gigabyte from something like Google's MVNO, Project Fi.

There is a lot of kool-aid out there on net neutrality. The takeaway is this. If you have a faster Internet connection with high or no cap, net neutrality becomes irrelevant to you because you can't even use your full speed unless you torrent hundreds of gigabytes of files all day every day. 100 megabit and gigabit connections are much cheaper and easier to find than they were years ago. You may be boned if you live in a rural area, but Microsoft has just pledged to take this on using wireless TV white spaces. On phone wireless, you have tight caps and throttling and that is unlikely to change anytime soon. But Project Fi and other resellers are offering a fair deal and you can use Wi-Fi to get around cap and throttling problems.

Well, my set up is unique. We have wired/cable internet, but my set up is such that I can't use Ethernet directly. My PC is in an upper room and as such, I have to use wireless as there'd be no way for me to route the Ethernet cable through the roof to the upper floor of the house, much less have a long enough cable. Sure, there's the POE method, plugging in a adapter to the wall and using the cable that way, but it's not reliable either, and my house is almost 40 years old. That said, I don't trust most major ISPs or the FCC for pulling this BS, much less all those who back removing NN.

What about those who don't or cannot get/afford high speed internet? They're pretty much royally raped six ways from Sunday, esp. rural people with fixed wireless internet. Currently, I have a 100 mbps connection, but since I have to use Wireless, and not Ethernet for my computer *sigh*....damn. Yeah, I have Comcast unfortunately, but where I live, all the other ISPs suck ass, and Google Fiber is in the next city over, but won't come here because of Comcast being douchebags.

fox_whisper85 said:
Well, my set up is unique. We have wired/cable internet, but my set up is such that I can't use Ethernet directly. My PC is in an upper room and as such, I have to use wireless as there'd be no way for me to route the Ethernet cable through the roof to the upper floor of the house, much less have a long enough cable. Sure, there's the POE method, plugging in a adapter to the wall and using the cable that way, but it's not reliable either, and my house is almost 40 years old. That said, I don't trust most major ISPs or the FCC for pulling this BS, much less all those who back removing NN.

What about those who don't or cannot get/afford high speed internet? They're pretty much royally raped six ways from Sunday, esp. rural people with fixed wireless internet. Currently, I have a 100 mbps connection, but since I have to use Wireless, and not Ethernet for my computer *sigh*....damn. Yeah, I have Comcast unfortunately, but where I live, all the other ISPs suck ass, and Google Fiber is in the next city over, but won't come here because of Comcast being douchebags.

Under my definition you are using wired Internet, not municipal scale wireless or cellular wireless. NN has nothing to do with your problem. Wi-Fi is just the way you are accessing your wired Internet. The connection to your house is fine and you are just using a bad router or a long distance from computer to router. What does speedtest say you get?

My advice would be to experiment with a Wi-Fi extender before considering a new router. The cheapest ones are only about $15-20 and plug into a wall outlet to extend the range of your network. The repeated signal on a cheap one could be only half as fast due to it being single channel, but half as fast can be much better than being at the extreme edge of the primary router's range.

https://www.repeaterstore.com/pages/wifi-booster-repeater-extender-differences

That's much cheaper than getting a fancy router, and you might be able to return it if it doesn't work. All you have to do is find a spare outlet on the first floor directly under your room, or maybe an outlet on the second floor directly above the router. If it is occupied, you can get a power strip or a wall plate that turns 2 outlets into 4-6, either option for $5-10.

Lance_Armstrong said:
Mark my words, the end of net neutrality (except it doesn't actually exist right now) will not have any appreciable effect on e621, FurAffinity, etc.

ISPs already block certain websites, that has little to do with NN. "Pay to unblock your site" is a scheme that is unlikely to be attempted or succeed. The closest thing to this is Facebook's Free Basics which provides a limited number of web services to subsidized dirt poor Internet users.

You already have bandwidth caps in most cases, and possibly across the board throttling if you reach the cap. Wired Internet users likely experience throttling of video services like Netflix. So NN does not exist at certain ISPs under that definition. You can check Netflix's report to see which ISPs are better for Netflix. Look at the top of the list. Wow, it's the evil Comcast!

Changes to NN policy won't have much of an effect on wired Internet users. It will have the biggest impact on phone wireless Internet users. Wireless bandwidth is much more costly to deliver and phone carriers have tried out schemes like T-Mobile's Binge On to "zero rate" bandwidth consumption from certain video services. It's anti-NN, but it means you can use more data than before if use an approved service. What pissed people off more was T-Mobile degrading YouTube stream quality with no opt-out. That changed after YouTube partnered with T-Mobile for Binge On and assumed control of stream quality. If you don't like it, use a real unlimited wireless service (check reviews to make sure it is actually unlimited with nothing in the fine print) or buy bandwidth gigabyte-by-gigabyte from something like Google's MVNO, Project Fi.

There is a lot of kool-aid out there on net neutrality. The takeaway is this. If you have a faster Internet connection with high or no cap, net neutrality becomes irrelevant to you because you can't even use your full speed unless you torrent hundreds of gigabytes of files all day every day. 100 megabit and gigabit connections are much cheaper and easier to find than they were years ago. You may be boned if you live in a rural area, but Microsoft has just pledged to take this on using wireless TV white spaces. On phone wireless, you have tight caps and throttling and that is unlikely to change anytime soon. But Project Fi and other resellers are offering a fair deal and you can use Wi-Fi to get around cap and throttling problems.

All of which are now temporary

Lance_Armstrong said:
You already have bandwidth caps in most cases, and possibly across the board throttling if you reach the cap.

dealt with that when we had wildblue (which dish network and probably some other companies sell repackaged under a different name.) and if we went over their 12GB/month cap then our internet connection bombed and mean BIG time. they made the connection slower than dial-up to the point where even this web page would take multiple refreshes just to try and get it to load.

fox_whisper85 said:
What about those who don't or cannot get/afford high speed internet? They're pretty much royally raped six ways from Sunday, esp. rural people with fixed wireless internet. Currently, I have a 100 mbps connection, but since I have to use Wireless, and not Ethernet for my computer *sigh*....damn. Yeah, I have Comcast unfortunately, but where I live, all the other ISPs suck ass, and Google Fiber is in the next city over, but won't come here because of Comcast being douchebags.

that...was the situation here in garvin and idabel (southeast oklahoma) but then they started laying down fiber optic lines (that stop short of where our trailer is! >.<). so for most people here, the situation has probably improved somewhat but i'm hoping for better when we move next year.

still...giving ISPs the freedom to throttle and issue bandwidth caps as they see fit is pretty shitty. and that's probably going to be what people will be up against if they kill net neutrality.

greedy bastards...only reason they didn't setup this fiber optic stuff years ago was because they wanted the government to cover the costs so they wouldn't have to and with this, they're going to be looking to squeeze more money out of people that have little to no alternative but use the BS restrictive services they offer.

as for comcast and the other companies you guys mentioned. they probably could care less about making things better. i bet they'd rather just get as much money as possible while the whole system burns.

treos said:
dealt with that when we had wildblue (which dish network and probably some other companies sell repackaged under a different name.) and if we went over their 12GB/month cap then our internet connection bombed and mean BIG time. they made the connection slower than dial-up to the point where even this web page would take multiple refreshes just to try and get it to load.

Ouch, now that is a low cap. 100-250 GB would be closer to acceptable, 1 TB preferred.

treos said:
greedy bastards...only reason they didn't setup this fiber optic stuff years ago was because they wanted the government to cover the costs so they wouldn't have to and with this, they're going to be looking to squeeze more money out of people that have little to no alternative but use the BS restrictive services they offer.

About that...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bruce-kushnick/the-book-of-broken-promis_b_5839394.html

Don't want to get mad? Don't read that link.

Lance_Armstrong said:
Ouch, now that is a low cap. 100-250 GB would be closer to acceptable, 1 TB preferred.

Now you know how I feel and why I download Youtube videos instead of streaming them.

Lance_Armstrong said:
Ouch, now that is a low cap. 100-250 GB would be closer to acceptable, 1 TB preferred.

pfft a guy i was replying to in that last video i linked about the SNES Mini being sold out within minutes (video game thread) said he had to deal with a 10GB cap.

10-12GB isn't even a week or maybe even half a weeks worth these days. especially if you're like me and download games and other stuff a lot + watch youtube all the time. and even now, youtube only auto adjusts to 144p for streaming. i know i can manually change it but still...that sucks.

BlueDingo said:
Now you know how I feel and why I download Youtube videos instead of streaming them.

over 30 minutes? better off downloading then watching for me too. and i kinda have no choice when i want to watch anime. anime ain't anime if it's in 144p aka potato quality. not imo anyway.

BlueDingo said:
With my 5GB/month plan

saw that post too. 5GB? in this day and age? that is laughably small. heck, a small hand full of psx games would kill that. you're probablpy quite lucky that youtube videos have a small file size compared to most other video formats.

treos said:
over 30 minutes? better off downloading then watching for me too. and i kinda have no choice when i want to watch anime. anime ain't anime if it's in 144p aka potato quality. not imo anyway.

It's never fun watching videos in the lowest quality available, especially if text is involved, but at least it keeps the downloads down and it's still mostly legible. You wouldn't think that music playing at 24kbps quality would sound any good at all but it somehow sounds okay. Not good by any means but okay.

Alot things make me angry right now and sad

I'm thinking to quit drawing and do any other things.

treos said:
pfft a guy i was replying to in that last video i linked about the SNES Mini being sold out within minutes (video game thread) said he had to deal with a 10GB cap.

10-12GB isn't even a week or maybe even half a weeks worth these days. especially if you're like me and download games and other stuff a lot + watch youtube all the time. and even now, youtube only auto adjusts to 144p for streaming. i know i can manually change it but still...that sucks.

over 30 minutes? better off downloading then watching for me too. and i kinda have no choice when i want to watch anime. anime ain't anime if it's in 144p aka potato quality. not imo anyway.

saw that post too. 5GB? in this day and age? that is laughably small. heck, a small hand full of psx games would kill that. you're probablpy quite lucky that youtube videos have a small file size compared to most other video formats.

I get 5GB. The weekly mandatory update alone goes over because everything is removed and put back. It happens even while off, and airplane mode makes an exception for it. I actually don't get a choice. This is also considered the unlimited plan. Each additional GB is $20. You are not allowed to see how the data was used, and even knowing how much is unauthorized information until you've already been billed. I think they are bullshitting it, because my phone was dead for two months, and I was over by more than ten times.

As for the Internet at home, we've already been hit. Hard. 56k modem hard. Because we used a site they thought was a hacking site. That site was w3schools.

notawerewolf said:
People who choose to act irresponsibly or waste their potential, selfishness, and people who harm others.

So.. Drawing furry artwork?

People who go out of their way to bitch and moan about artwork they hate and are too damn lazy and/refuse to use the blacklist.

Makes me ask to myself "Who pissed in your cereal?"

People who use direct image links as the sole image source. Kindly take two of these and call me in the morning:
凸ಠ益ಠ)凸

fox_whisper85 said:
People who go out of their way to bitch and moan about artwork they hate and are too damn lazy and/refuse to use the blacklist.

Makes me ask to myself "Who pissed in your cereal?"

Provided they can blacklist it, of course. Sometimes, the complaint is about something that has no tag to blacklist.

BlueDingo said:
Provided they can blacklist it, of course. Sometimes, the complaint is about something that has no tag to blacklist.

There is always individual id#****** "tags". Works on individual posts, but if they're complaining about only one or two posts this'll work like a charm...

And if otherwise, and it is a substantial amount of posts, I'd redirect them to our Do we have a tag for that thread.

BlueDingo said:
Provided they can blacklist it, of course. Sometimes, the complaint is about something that has no tag to blacklist.

Oh, I always see it on tags that I know that can be easily blacklisted. I should make a tutorial on how to do it just so shut those people up who blatantly ignore using it just so they have an excuse to complain about it.

fox_whisper85 said:
Oh, I always see it on tags that I know that can be easily blacklisted. I should make a tutorial on how to do it just so shut those people up who blatantly ignore using it just so they have an excuse to complain about it.

Or you can just report them and they get a red bar because, yes, it is obvious. It's been told to them time and time again.

Furrin_Gok said:
Or you can just report them and they get a red bar because, yes, it is obvious. It's been told to them time and time again.

Eh, I suppose I could, though I fear of retaliation. I know of people who were unfairly banned because someone was bitter. For obvious reasons I won't name names. One my friends is afraid the person he had a falling out will revenge-report him out of spite. That's another thing that pisses me off, people getting unfairly punished from bitter people and/or revenge reporting.

fox_whisper85 said:
Eh, I suppose I could, though I fear of retaliation. I know of people who were unfairly banned because someone was bitter. For obvious reasons I won't name names. One my friends is afraid the person he had a falling out will revenge-report him out of spite. That's another thing that pisses me off, people getting unfairly punished from bitter people.

Nobody's going to know you're the one who reported them, so you don't have to fear retaliation.

Jumping back on Net Neutrality since I was busy yesterday.

Lance_Armstrong said:
Mark my words, the end of net neutrality (except it doesn't actually exist right now) will not have any appreciable effect on e621, FurAffinity, etc.

ISPs already block certain websites, that has little to do with NN. "Pay to unblock your site" is a scheme that is unlikely to be attempted or succeed. The closest thing to this is Facebook's Free Basics which provides a limited number of web services to subsidized dirt poor Internet users.

Not going to address all your comments. and I'm actually gonna just drop some links for you to watch and read.(Which I encourage to watch all of, I know that should go without saying but, you'd be surprised.) That said though I will admit my own view and fear on this topic might be a bit hyperbole, HOWEVER I do believe the ending of NN will ultimately be a downfall for internet freedom.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/07/how-title-ii-goes-beyond-net-neutrality-to-protect-internet-users-from-isps/

John Oliver (Whom let me tell I do disagree with on some things.)-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpbOEoRrHyU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92vuuZt7wak

StyxHexenHammer -
https://youtu.be/J4W9aHhnyQo?t=13m19s (He talks about several things he agree's and disagrees with in this. I've picked out the part where he starts on NN.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC_B806Yv1E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzuvGzK48wg

kamimatsu said:
Problem is, how do you write those emails?

https://netneutrality.internetassociation.org/action/
https://www.battleforthenet.com/

This should help some. Otherwise there are list of congress members, and any with any pull in this area are available on line with their public contact information.

There's this guy constantly revving his Mustang's engine. He has a loud aftermarket exhaust on it. This is an otherwise quiet neighborhood, but this degenerate fucktard has to show off how cool he is. He leaves, then he comes back. He's done this about five times now. He was doing it last night, too. I love cars, but there is a place for loud exhaust, and it's not a quiet suburban neighborhood.

Furrin_Gok said:
Nobody's going to know you're the one who reported them, so you don't have to fear retaliation.

True, but I do know who the one who reported another friend of mine was (and the victim ultimately got his account permabanned). And I believe another SFM user is next on his hit list for being accused and falsely banned. Again, I won't mention names, but unfair banning and the fact this punk gets away with false accusations that lead to say bans is what pisses me off.

Then we have net neutrality and the fact people think losing it will be a good thing. Hate to say it, but they are sorely mistake.

Comcast is full of liberal bullshit.

Strawman arguments and ad hominems.
Oh boy I see them too much.

Also the people in my neighborhood (especially in the summertime) are always outside being loud as shit blasting bass-heavy music from their cars.

Being told I'm a guy with a vagina because I have a flat chest isn't something I enjoy very much, off the top of my head.

Also people who text and drive.

Siral_Exan said:
There is always individual id#****** "tags". Works on individual posts, but if they're complaining about only one or two posts this'll work like a charm...

True, but there's a big issue there. What if the number of images you wish to blacklist is >400? Every "id:#" entry requires 4-11 characters and your blacklist has a 3900 character limit, meaning you can only do this about 400 times. And that's if you start from an empty blacklist.

This is why I use downvotes for this instead. I downvote all the ones with untaggable issues (anatomical issues, technical errors, censored images that have an uncensored version available, etc.) and add "-voteddown:whatever" to my searches. 2903 downvoted images so far, far too many to blacklist individually.

BlueDingo said:
True, but there's a big issue there. What if the number of images you wish to blacklist is >400? Every "id:#" entry requires 4-11 characters and your blacklist has a 3900 character limit, meaning you can only do this about 400 times. And that's if you start from an empty blacklist.

This is why I use downvotes for this instead. I downvote all the ones with untaggable issues (anatomical issues, technical errors, censored images that have an uncensored version available, etc.) and add "-voteddown:whatever" to my searches. 2903 downvoted images so far, far too many to blacklist individually.

Well, in my defense: telling a person to downvote the image and then add your suggested in every search from there on out, is a tad bit crude... not to mention that it doesn't effect the front page unless you intentionally search -voteddown:whatever , using the blacklist over that solves general viewer problems. Not to mock, but if they need over 400 terms blacklisted, I think they've got e621 and e926 mixed up.

Siral_Exan said:
Well, in my defense: telling a person to downvote the image and then add your suggested in every search from there on out, is a tad bit crude...

It would be less of an issue if you could blacklist the voteddown metatag.

Siral_Exan said:
Not to mock, but if they need over 400 terms blacklisted, I think they've got e621 and e926 mixed up.

Even if they're rated safe? Of the 2903, 1559 are safe ones. And if it's for fetish reasons, most of them have tags.

BlueDingo said:
Even if they're rated safe? Of the 2903, 1559 are safe ones. And if it's for fetish reasons, most of them have tags.

This is you, not the general public. If I wanted to tell you what to do, I'd ask someone else instead; you know better than an average user. If I wanted to tell an average user what to do (in context of blacklisting or other general advice), I'd do it myself; they may not know better.

Siral_Exan said:
This is you, not the general public. If I wanted to tell you what to do, I'd ask someone else instead; you know better than an average user. If I wanted to tell an average user what to do (in context of blacklisting or other general advice), I'd do it myself; they may not know better.

Just so there's no confusion, I do use the blacklist normally as well. It has 39 entries in it right now, none of which are IDs. My point is for unwanted things that don't have tags, blacklisting the IDs of every image with those unwanted things in them is impractical due to that character limit. Blacklisting a few images works just fine, but once that number gets into the hundreds, you run into the problem that I use downvotes to circumvent.

BlueDingo said:
Just so there's no confusion, I do use the blacklist normally as well. It has 39 entries in it right now, none of which are IDs. My point is for unwanted things that don't have tags, blacklisting the IDs of every image with those unwanted things in them is impractical due to that character limit. Blacklisting a few images works just fine, but once that number gets into the hundreds, you run into the problem that I use downvotes to circumvent.

The id:****** blacklist isn't sole, you'd use it for individual images that are unavoidable or unpredictable. Again, if you need such a large count of tags to have an effective blacklist, maybe the blacklist is inefficient or the content you view (in general) is what needs to be avoided. Intentionally downvoting images just to faux blacklist really Is questionable; what exactly would you need to avoid viewing that such an ultimate "solution" is your only saving grace?

Siral_Exan said:
The id:****** blacklist isn't sole, you'd use it for individual images that are unavoidable or unpredictable. Again, if you need such a large count of tags to have an effective blacklist, maybe the blacklist is inefficient or the content you view (in general) is what needs to be avoided. Intentionally downvoting images just to faux blacklist really Is questionable; what exactly would you need to avoid viewing that such an ultimate "solution" is your only saving grace?

Pointless recolours. I don't really want the same thing appearing several times just because someone wanted to make many different coloured versions of it. As far as I'm concerned, if the colouration is the only difference, they're the same thing.

post #1043 <- Original
Recolours -> post #2581post #47413post #47414post #47415post #47417post #75260post #98522post #84000

Censored vs. Uncensored. If an uncensored version of something exists, why would I ever want to see the censored one?

post #1143773 <- Censored / Uncensored -> post #1142823

Bad quality, bad perspective, bad anatomy, etc. Pretty much every tag for these has been invalidated.

post #1176133post #851536post #283942post #38901

Obvious technical flaws. I will admit this one is a little nit-picky but if they're gonna make something clever, they should at least try to get it right.

post #1089704post #1082982

There are more reasons but I think that's enough to get my point across.

Ps. "need to avoid" should be "want to avoid". Most people don't "need" to avoid any content.

I get angry when moderators go on power trips and needlessly delete posts either in the forums or on the main image post page, just to feel better about their own sad lives by making other people sad or angry.

It's unnecessary, pisses large amounts of people off, spawns unneeded amounts of forum topics, and the moderators who go on power trips and try to justify it should be righteously terminated without warning.

RogueLizard said:
I get angry when moderators go on power trips and needlessly delete posts either in the forums or on the main image post page, just to feel better about their own sad lives by making other people sad or angry.

It's unnecessary, pisses large amounts of people off, spawns unneeded amounts of forum topics, and the moderators who go on power trips and try to justify it should be righteously terminated without warning.

Passive-aggressive people who think they're above the communities they've joined.

RogueLizard said:
I get angry when moderators go on power trips and needlessly delete posts either in the forums or on the main image post page, just to feel better about their own sad lives by making other people sad or angry.

It's unnecessary, pisses large amounts of people off, spawns unneeded amounts of forum topics, and the moderators who go on power trips and try to justify it should be righteously terminated without warning.

Which sites have you been going to that do that and still exist?

RogueLizard said:
I get angry when moderators go on power trips and needlessly delete posts either in the forums or on the main image post page, just to feel better about their own sad lives by making other people sad or angry.

It's unnecessary, pisses large amounts of people off, spawns unneeded amounts of forum topics, and the moderators who go on power trips and try to justify it should be righteously terminated without warning.

You mean here? I hope so lolol the mods here are dope af, so that would make the above hilarious

When the toilet roll is facing inwards, instead of outwards. Ppl, Y u do dis?

PikachuLover said:
When the toilet roll is facing inwards, instead of outwards. Ppl, Y u do dis?

I used to think that way, but then I found out the reasons.

Go ahead, when you really need to take a dump and notice the toilet paper's empty, take your sweet time, and put it on "right." No, not inwards, outwards. Sure, your pants are now completely ruined, but at least you got the paper on right!

You're also less likely to get the paper sticking to itself, since you'll have an extra square out in the back, meaning you can always find the square to grip.

Furrin_Gok said:
Go ahead, when you really need to take a dump and notice the toilet paper's empty, take your sweet time, and put it on "right." No, not inwards, outwards. Sure, your pants are now completely ruined, but at least you got the paper on right!

Just put it on while you're sitting on the toilet???

PikachuLover said:
When the toilet roll is facing inwards, instead of outwards. Ppl, Y u do dis?

Furrin_Gok said:
I used to think that way, but then I found out the reasons.

Go ahead, when you really need to take a dump and notice the toilet paper's empty, take your sweet time, and put it on "right." No, not inwards, outwards. Sure, your pants are now completely ruined, but at least you got the paper on right!

You're also less likely to get the paper sticking to itself, since you'll have an extra square out in the back, meaning you can always find the square to grip.

We just set the free roll on the sink edge instead of putting it on a holder, that way we can pick up the roll and take what we need.

As for something that makes me mad, when a bird decided to sit in our tree and scream at the top of its lungs at six in the morning. I understand it wants to get it's groove on, but there's a bunch of other trees elsewhere to scream.

PikachuLover said:
When the toilet roll is facing inwards, instead of outwards. Ppl, Y u do dis?

Cats and little kids love to bat at toilet rolls. If the paper is hung inwards/under, it'll probably just spin around instead of unrolling when they do that.

Talk about abusing your power. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edQK_O9P8Zo

JoeX said:
Talk about abusing your power. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edQK_O9P8Zo

I'd have flipped him off and walked away.

JoeX said:
Talk about abusing your power. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edQK_O9P8Zo

"what is you doing?"

ugh...

I'm very late and I know this is going to be buried, but hear me out. I'm not angry about this, but I am upset.

Lately, I can't explain it, but I feel more paranoid on the internet. I'm upset at myself because, while I have the power to improve my myself, I fall apart the moment I face hurtful things said to me. Now, I'm not some safe-space demanding loony. However, it saddens me that I can't say anything innocuous without someone disapproving what I say. Lately, when I make a comment anywhere on this site, I'm hit with down votes, and I often wonder what I did to offend someone.

I really hate that I offend or disgust people. I don't mean to. I just people to laugh with me, not at me.

Sorry for the rant.

Inconsiderate assholes that are inconsiderate on purpose. My mom and I stopped for gas today and I got out to pump the gas. There was a car next to us with loud rap music blaring from the speakers, but that's not the inconsiderate part. I went to get in and this douchebag had left his door open, blocking me from getting in. I didn't want to say anything because I knew he was going to try to start something if I did. If he didn't, his girlfriend was probably going to. I could have closed his door, but I didn't want to end up risking it. I also just found out that the Mustang I was complaining about earlier has an exhaust bypass system, so the owner chooses to make it as loud as possible. Fucking cunt.

BSting said:
I'm very late and I know this is going to be buried, but hear me out. I'm not angry about this, but I am upset.

Lately, I can't explain it, but I feel more paranoid on the internet. I'm upset at myself because, while I have the power to improve my myself, I fall apart the moment I face hurtful things said to me. Now, I'm not some safe-space demanding loony. However, it saddens me that I can't say anything innocuous without someone disapproving what I say. Lately, when I make a comment anywhere on this site, I'm hit with down votes, and I often wonder what I did to offend someone.

I really hate that I offend or disgust people. I don't mean to. I just people to laugh with me, not at me.

Sorry for the rant.

people keep downvoting my avatar, too
but it will never be as downvoted as the cheese grater

Munkelzahn said:
people keep downvoting my avatar, too
but it will never be as downvoted as the cheese grater

Just need 305 more downvotes to surpass it. I recall the gap being ~450 or so some months back..

Munkelzahn said:
people keep downvoting my avatar, too
but it will never be as downvoted as the cheese grater

That could be because users keep using it to troll people.

BSting said:
I really hate that I offend or disgust people. I don't mean to. I just people to laugh with me, not at me.

If you want people to laugh with you, tell jokes. Most people don't find getting off to characters undergoing an extremely painful and potentially deadly activity to be funny.

Also, attempting to bring any abnormal fetish to an image that has absolutely nothing to do with it is pretty much guaranteed to piss people off.

BlueDingo said:
Also, attempting to bring any abnormal fetish to an image that has absolutely nothing to do with it is pretty much guaranteed to piss people off.

There are normal fetishes?
in the furry fandom, cub fetish probably counts as normal

Munkelzahn said:
There are normal fetishes?
in the furry fandom, cub fetish probably counts as normal

Tits and arse fetishes are about as normal as it gets. Foot fetish is a little iffy.

BlueDingo said:
That could be because users keep using it to troll people.

If you want people to laugh with you, tell jokes. Most people don't find getting off to characters undergoing an extremely painful and potentially deadly activity to be funny.

Also, attempting to bring any abnormal fetish to an image that has absolutely nothing to do with it is pretty much guaranteed to piss people off.

Gosh damn, I remember when I made that comment so long ago.
I think that was the worst I got.
Huh, so people think of me as childish or creepy or dangerous or something? That's not something I want to do...

Geez, no wonder people see me as a freak show. A clown to laugh at and throw rotten tomatoes towards. Awww, now I'm getting self-conscience again. I really AM making myself happy and no one else with all the time and money I spend with the art I put up.

Makes me reflect on my life. Was any of this worth it?

PikachuLover said:
When the toilet roll is facing inwards, instead of outwards. Ppl, Y u do dis?

It makes sense when you have small kids who might spin the roll clean. My babysitter way back when used to do that for this reason.

Caps abuse makes me quite angry.

Or when you have to go to work but it starts to rain.

Extremely entitled, dense man children.

You know who you are.

that one asshole constantly smoking somewhere near my window. the smoke comes in my room and i react really badly to cigarette smoke (my throat and nose start to hurt, i get a headache and my sinuses get clogged and i will be coughing up slime hours after it)

due the frequency of this asshole's smoking, i have to pretty much pick between fucking up my breathing holes and frying myself alive

Spending an entire green light behind that one car waiting to make their left turn until the light is red.

Ledian said:
that one asshole constantly smoking somewhere near my window. the smoke comes in my room and i react really badly to cigarette smoke (my throat and nose start to hurt, i get a headache and my sinuses get clogged and i will be coughing up slime hours after it)

due the frequency of this asshole's smoking, i have to pretty much pick between fucking up my breathing holes and frying myself alive

hmmm... maybe you could open the windows when he's doing that at some point and dump a bucket of water over his head then tell him to take it elsewhere.

treos said:
hmmm... maybe you could open the windows when he's doing that at some point and dump a bucket of water over his head then tell him to take it elsewhere.

Dumping water on him would escalate the situation.

BlueDingo said:
Dumping water on him would escalate the situation.

Escalation is the only thing some people understand, though.

Ledian said:
that one asshole constantly smoking somewhere near my window. the smoke comes in my room and i react really badly to cigarette smoke (my throat and nose start to hurt, i get a headache and my sinuses get clogged and i will be coughing up slime hours after it)

due the frequency of this asshole's smoking, i have to pretty much pick between fucking up my breathing holes and frying myself alive

What's stopping you from actually doing it? He's the one being an inconsiderate douche.

BSting said:
Gosh damn, I remember when I made that comment so long ago.
I think that was the worst I got.
Huh, so people think of me as childish or creepy or dangerous or something? That's not something I want to do...

Geez, no wonder people see me as a freak show. A clown to laugh at and throw rotten tomatoes towards. Awww, now I'm getting self-conscience again. I really AM making myself happy and no one else with all the time and money I spend with the art I put up.

Makes me reflect on my life. Was any of this worth it?

Well... no one else is a bit of an exaggeration. The problem is you've focused on something very few people like seeing.

How often do you draw other stuff? Specialization is okay, but a little more variety wouldn't hurt.

treos said:
hmmm... maybe you could open the windows when he's doing that at some point and dump a bucket of water over his head then tell him to take it elsewhere.

not possible because im not exactly sure where the person is smoking since i cant see them anywhere around. they are either smoking from their apartment's window or right behind the corner.

People, companies, schools, nations, etc that needlessly bend over backwards and, for lack of a better term, commit suicide for the sake of seeming "progressive" to the rest of the world. I'd be specific, but i'm sure it'd spark a storm, plus i'm sure you can draw the lines yourself.

BlueDingo said:
Well... no one else is a bit of an exaggeration. The problem is you've focused on something very few people like seeing.

How often do you draw other stuff? Specialization is okay, but a little more variety wouldn't hurt.

Well, the reason I go specializing my stuff is because, if I went vanilla, I would be going up against a lot of artists that are much better than me. Then again, I tried to stand out with what I have and it only got me suppressed and shushed...

So, yeah, I don't know what to do.

BSting said:
Well, the reason I go specializing my stuff is because, if I went vanilla, I would be going up against a lot of artists that are much better than me. Then again, I tried to stand out with what I have and it only got me suppressed and shushed...

So, yeah, I don't know what to do.

Try drawing something the others don't. I'm yet to see a furry artist draw someone riding a pallet jack like a scooter, amongst many other things.

*clicks notification bell on youtube* ...what? not 5 seconds ago, i had notifications and now...they're all gone? *clicks settings cog in notifications thing* ...what? what is this? what is that page for? did youtube's stupid devs go and break something...again?

*sigh* great, so what are they doing to the notification system and how are they going to try to fix what isn't broken this time? and are they screwing with all of my subscriptions while they're at it?

edit: uh...nevermind? looks like it's working again. odd

treos said:
*clicks notification bell on youtube* ...what? not 5 seconds ago, i had notifications and now...they're all gone? *clicks settings cog in notifications thing* ...what? what is this? what is that page for? did youtube's stupid devs go and break something...again?

*sigh* great, so what are they doing to the notification system and how are they going to try to fix what isn't broken this time? and are they screwing with all of my subscriptions while they're at it?

edit: uh...nevermind? looks like it's working again. odd

Yeeeeeah... Google honestly listens to the YT community even less than the original site staff did. And changes things without desire or input from the community far more often.

Still waiting for them to add back in playlist start and end times for at least Red subscribers! >:U

Just look at this massive, relatively-often-posted-in thread that has gotten NO attention from staff despite being in a HELP forum: https://productforums.google.com/forum/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer#!msg/youtube/Gipu_cCDScI/Vr4MRRxAAAAJ

Thread's been going for almost two years, and the help staff is just ignoring it.

My mom and I were leaving a plaza. This girl stops her car in the middle of the road and gets out. She then gets in and decides to start looking for something while driving. Why are there so many idiots in the world?

Azula_Arktandr said:
Yeeeeeah... Google honestly listens to the YT community even less than the original site staff did. And changes things without desire or input from the community far more often.

Still waiting for them to add back in playlist start and end times for at least Red subscribers! >:U

Just look at this massive, relatively-often-posted-in thread that has gotten NO attention from staff despite being in a HELP forum: https://productforums.google.com/forum/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer#!msg/youtube/Gipu_cCDScI/Vr4MRRxAAAAJ

Thread's been going for almost two years, and the help staff is just ignoring it.

i still wish they'd strip the site of all that asynchronous loading garbage. youtube pages currently have 3, yes THREE, separate parts to load and at any given time 1-3 of those parts might require you to refresh the page (a LOT) to practically brute force it to load properly.

1. the video player (if it even starts the streaming process)
2. the side bar and uploaders avatar pic
and 3. the comments section

the side bar tends to behave well for me and typically serves as an indicator of whether or not the comments will load. the video player on the other hand that's its own different chunk of the page and comes with its own set of bullshit.

i'm sure you've seen me make at least 1 post here about the "restart your device" error message. and how their video player deciding to break somehow manages to take my copy of VLC media player down with it. yes, a online, browser based video player that has absolutely NO relation whatsoever to an offline media player can break and take the offline one down with it. and somehow this is a problem on my end? get fucked, youtube.

*opens a youtube video in a new tab* ....ok, the video is playing fine but where's the comments? *refreshes page* ...still no comments... *refreshes 3 more times* ...ok, now why isn't the side bar loading? *refreshes again* ...wth? now neither of these shitty things is loading. *starts using ctrl+F5* ....great, now the video player won't start! *yet MORE refreshing* for crying out loud, would you just-oh! everything finally loaded properly. well...ok then...

that really does happen sometimes. all because the page loads 3 separate pieces instead of loading 1 entire page all at once like a normal website. well, actually it loads in 4 pieces now that i think of it. theres the bar at the top with the search bar and other stuff but that is directly linked to the side bar so if the side bar doesn't load then neither will the top bar and notifications thingy.

the best possible description to google's setup is to call it a literal cluster-fuck.

edit: wait...youtube has a support forum? when did this happen? i've never even heard of this forum before.

Accounts suspended without any reason.. what the hell is going on?

i would have to agree that those with accounts getting terminated should at least get a notification as to why it happened. people can make all the excuses they want but this kind of practice strikes me as shady business.

I posted a topic on the google help forums once, about needing a way for a user to make their own self non-anonymous on an "Anybody can view and edit" spreadsheet or document. Their answer? "The owner of the document can invite users to send a link that will allow it to show their username." And now, they actually removed a function that allowed us to force non-anonymity: entering the chat menu "Lets you retain anonymity." There's a guy on youtube who plays through games and used the spreadsheet to let users suggest and vote on what games to play, but because some jerks like to spam votes as an anon, he made a rule against that.

People being horrible to animals. I see in headlines of news articles but I know if I click I'll be up all night feeling helpless, angry, impotent. Then I'm still up all bloody night. If there were any gods I'd bloody hate them.

rhyolite said:
People being horrible to animals. I see in headlines of news articles but I know if I click I'll be up all night feeling helpless, angry, impotent. Then I'm still up all bloody night. If there were any gods I'd bloody hate them.

Oh believe me, there are so many animal abusers out there, if I ever see a video of people who upload that, or in person, I will make them pay, I will make their lives a living hell. Heartless bastards.

fox_whisper85 said:
Oh believe me, there are so many animal abusers out there, if I ever see a video of people who upload that, or in person, I will make them pay, I will make their lives a living hell. Heartless bastards.

wonder if youtube would make them pay...doubt it.

yep, that there is a whole lot of russian titled/description videos showing young girls (who have yet to reach puberty and are wearing only panties or the bottom part of a bkini) being left up. shame youtube \/google doesn't care about it even though it's borderline pedo stuff. i got curious about that youtube/russian pedo stuff the other day and did a bit of looking around is all. there's nothing explicit about them (save that for the nude pilates class videos and other stuff showing genitalia. those would be explicit by e621's ratings.) of course but the quantity of those videos is rather suspicious.

animal abuse...pedo stuff...it makes me wonder just what youtube and google's priorities really are. cause they clearly aren't bothered by that stuff enough to remove it. and who knows how much of it gets past their age filtering stuff. i know a lot of that shit Suit Yourself finds gets through well enough...including that one channel with a video starring a drag queen who looks like a friggin babadook.

edit: my curerent gamefly queue

gamefly, what is so darn special about those first 3 games in my queue that you WILL NOT let me have them? i've got darksiders 2: the deathinitive edition now and just checked and they've shipped watchdogs 2 but this is like 4 returns now and they still keep skipping those 3 games.

i didn't think "medium availablity" meant "unavailable". this is really getting me wondering why exactly, they keep skipping those 3 games and sending things further down my queue instead.

HypnoBitch said:
What gets you angry? Post anything you'd like. Get it all off your chest in here. No arguing. Just thought this would help with anyone's stress.

I am angry when I meet people who are closed minded to everything.

The Tagme tag. Why do I have to cover for people who are too lazy to even type 4 freaking tags?