notawerewolf said:
Just tempted? Bitch I'd park and heckle their asses out the window

Hey, it's free speech though, and protected, so they wouldn't be able to legally do anything to stop you. Maybe post some WII anti-Nazi propaganda, like those Three Stooges episodes should work to piss off those buggers.

BlueDingo said:
Too blatant. Just put a sauwastika on your car and slowly drive past. They can't tell the difference between ࿕ and ࿖, and if they attack your car, you can report them for vandalism. If they try to charge you with displaying a hate symbol, tell them you're a Buddhist.

That's the most insane idea I've heard, and it would work too, so it's a genius idea as well, heh. I love it.

fox_whisper85 said:
That's the most insane idea I've heard, and it would work too, so it's a genius idea as well, heh. I love it.

They don't call me a mad cunt for nothing.

fox_whisper85 said:
Hey, it's free speech though, and protected, so they wouldn't be able to legally do anything to stop you. Maybe post some WII anti-Nazi propaganda, like those Three Stooges episodes should work to piss off those buggers.

That's the most insane idea I've heard, and it would work too, so it's a genius idea as well, heh. I love it.

and you'd be fighting against cultural appropriation
(unless you're non-Asian, then you're appropriating Buddhism)

Munkelzahn said:
and you'd be fighting against cultural appropriation
(unless you're non-Asian, then you're appropriating Buddhism)

I identify as culturefluid. I am whatever culture I feel like at the time.

Munkelzahn said:
and you'd be fighting against cultural appropriation
(unless you're non-Asian, then you're appropriating Buddhism)

i'm not a chink and am a Buddhist, so i guess that makes me the villain in this scenario

well kinda Buddhist. it's woke af and i'm well-studied in it, just don't care enough to better my life and shit. i'm down with the struggle lolol

Munkelzahn said:
and you'd be fighting against cultural appropriation
(unless you're non-Asian, then you're appropriating Buddhism)

Cultural appropriation is a myth.

kamimatsu said:
Cultural appropriation is a myth.

Open question to anyone who believes this:

Would you object to someone wearing military medals and/or honors that they hadn't rightly earned? Even if you wouldn't personally object to it, would you feel that the military is justified in punishing an individual who does?

MoonlitSoul said:
Open question to anyone who believes this:

Would you object to someone wearing military medals and/or honors that they hadn't rightly earned? Even if you wouldn't personally object to it, would you feel that the military is justified in punishing an individual who does?

I'd be asking them what they think about Japan appropriating american culture to the point that their culture is now more american than japanese.

BlueDingo said:
I'd be asking them what they think about Japan appropriating american culture to the point that their culture is now more american than japanese.

Japan had American culture forcefed down its throat at metaphorical and in some ways literal gunpoint in the dawning of the industrial revolution. It's really not the same thing.

MoonlitSoul said:
Open question to anyone who believes this:

Would you object to someone wearing military medals and/or honors that they hadn't rightly earned? Even if you wouldn't personally object to it, would you feel that the military is justified in punishing an individual who does?

There's a difference imo between eating a taco and imposing yourself over something meaningful. As a mixed dude with no african heritage, there ain't shit wrong with me saying nigga, eating grits or getting dreads if I wanted. If I were to dress up like Martin Luther King and pretend to be him that'd be disgusting and hopefully people would tell me off.

You can be an ass with shit made in America or shit made in Japan. There's no cultural appropriation. Some faggot gets upset my lover or kid went to Halloween as an american indian I'm gonna call him a sissy and laugh. But I ain't gon dress up like Shiva or Jesus or Muhammad

BlueDingo said:
I'd be asking them what they think about Japan appropriating american culture to the point that their culture is now more american than japanese.

there are cultural things that are okay to share and there are cultural things that are not meant to be shared with outsiders. using cultural things that is not meant for you is cultural appropriation. using cultural things that are not meant only for specific group of people is not cultural appropriation. as far as i know, "american culture" is not a closed culture so you literally cannot appropriate it.

notawerewolf said:
There's a difference imo between eating a taco and imposing yourself over something meaningful.

There's a major level of nuance between those two things, though.

Not to mention, nobody outside of the seriously misguided or trolls pretending to be SJWs has said anything about eating a taco having anything to do with cultural appropriation. You buy a taco, that's a cultural EXCHANGE.

MoonlitSoul said:
Japan had American culture forcefed down its throat at metaphorical and in some ways literal gunpoint in the dawning of the industrial revolution. It's really not the same thing.

Wasn't that about 200 years ago? I'm pretty sure there was nothing stopping them from changing back afterwards if they wanted to. Also, americans aren't the only ones they're appropriating. Who forced boomerangs, tiki masks, etc. onto them?

MoonlitSoul said:
Not to mention, nobody outside of the seriously misguided or trolls pretending to be SJWs has said anything about eating a taco having anything to do with cultural appropriation. You buy a taco, that's a cultural EXCHANGE.

So I take it you're completely OK with the idea of souvenir shops where you can buy things like hula skirt dolls.

BlueDingo said:
Wasn't that about 200 years ago? I'm pretty sure there was nothing stopping them from changing back afterwards if they wanted to. Also, americans aren't the only ones they're appropriating. Who forced boomerangs, tiki masks, etc. onto them?

I'm noticing you're not answering the question I asked.

I'm also noticing you're presenting this to me like it's supposed to be ridiculous to think that Japan might be culturally appropriating other people?

like

aha

you got me

I think people other than white people are capable of being guilty of cultural appropriation.

now maybe get to where you explain how cultural appropriation ISN'T wrong instead of trying to deflect my very simple explanation of why it is.

MoonlitSoul said:
...

I wouldn't care if someone wore military medals they didn't earn. They're just pieces of metal. Just like clothes are just clothes, food is just food, and music is just music. Cultural appropriation is harmless.

BlackLicorice said:
I wouldn't care if someone wore military medals they didn't earn. They're just pieces of metal. Just like clothes are just clothes, food is just food, and music is just music. Cultural appropriation is harmless.

And I'm assuming that you also think that the Military is wrong to punish people for falsely wearing those things.

Ledian said:
there are cultural things that are okay to share and there are cultural things that are not meant to be shared with outsiders.

What things are not okay to share with other cultures? Clothes? Language?
Food? Hair styles? Music? I'm genuinely curious.

MoonlitSoul said:
Would you object to someone wearing military medals and/or honors that they hadn't rightly earned? Even if you wouldn't personally object to it, would you feel that the military is justified in punishing an individual who does?

Merely wearing them? No.
Claiming you earned them legitimately when you didn't? Yes. That would be fraud.

MoonlitSoul said:
And I'm assuming that you also think that the Military is wrong to punish people for falsely wearing those things.

Depends. Are they trying to convince people that they are military personnel?

MoonlitSoul said:
And I'm assuming that you also think that the Military is wrong to punish people for falsely wearing those things.

Like I just said, I wouldn't care. They're just pieces of metal.

I do agree with what BlueDingo said,

BlueDingo said:
Merely wearing them? No.
Claiming you earned them legitimately when you didn't? Yes. That would be fraud.

MoonlitSoul said:
Open question to anyone who believes this:

Would you object to someone wearing military medals and/or honors that they hadn't rightly earned? Even if you wouldn't personally object to it, would you feel that the military is justified in punishing an individual who does?

In the context of the exact military force that those medals relate to, yes. Because those are have implications for the amount of power and influence that person has in the military hierarchy.

Outside of that context, no; that would be deceptive, but not a threat to public order.

Besides that I'll just point at "exact military force" above and point out that a cultural artefact has meaning when interpreted within that culture; and does not have meaning when interpreted outside that culture. You should be very careful about importing expectations from your culture into a debate about how to behave WRT those artefacts, because people will rightly object to it: they don't necessarily share your framing of the issue, and bringing those things in without explicitly getting agreement that they are true for the purposes of the discussion .. is a dirty trick. An intelligent debater will reject your framing entirely if they recognize you have done this, because it's a pretty good indicator of a person who is arguing in bad faith.

savageorange said:
In the context of the exact military force that those medals relate to, yes. Because those are have implications for the amount of power and influence that person has in the military hierarchy.

Outside of that context, no; that would be deceptive, but not a threat to public order.

Besides that I'll just point at "exact military force" above and point out that a cultural artefact has meaning when interpreted within that culture; and does not have meaning when interpreted outside that culture. You should be very careful about importing expectations from your culture into a debate about how to behave WRT those artefacts, because people will rightly object to it: they don't necessarily share your framing of the issue, and bringing those things in without explicitly getting agreement that they are true for the purposes of the discussion .. is a dirty trick. An intelligent debater will reject your framing entirely if they recognize you have done this, because it's a pretty good indicator of a person who is arguing in bad faith.

I'm just trying to point out a similarity between a certain set of expectations within our own culture, at least to the other Americans in here, and the expectations certain people have to their own cultural symbols. There are a lot of people who put pretty heavy weight on these things - me included, being the child of a Vietnam combat medic.

Maybe I am arguing in bad faith - I don't think anyone here has argued with me in GOOD faith - but I don't think I've done anything dishonest by trying to frame this in a way that more conservatively-aligned people will be familiar with.

MoonlitSoul said:
Open question to anyone who believes this:

Would you object to someone wearing military medals and/or honors that they hadn't rightly earned? Even if you wouldn't personally object to it, would you feel that the military is justified in punishing an individual who does?

I'd object to impersonating an officer and ask why you equate impersonating an official position with doing something that happens to have been done by another culture? Especially since, if appropriation were a thing, which it isn't, American culture would be nothing other than appropriation.

BlackLicorice said:
What things are not okay to share with other cultures? Clothes? Language?
Food? Hair styles? Music? I'm genuinely curious.

it depends on culture.

kamimatsu said:
I'd object to impersonating an officer and ask why you equate impersonating an official position with doing something that happens to have been done by another culture? Especially since, if appropriation were a thing, which it isn't, American culture would be nothing other than appropriation.

Just as an example, a lot of people wear War Bonnets as a costume item, just for the aesthetic.

To the people who those articles belong to, though, they have the same meaning within that culture as a western military leader's medals do to them.

Ledian said:
it depends on culture.

So, in other words, you have no answer. Nothing "belongs" to a particular culture.

MoonlitSoul said:
Just as an example, a lot of people wear War Bonnets as a costume item, just for the aesthetic.

To the people who those articles belong to, though, they have the same meaning within that culture as a western military leader's medals do to them.

This seems to be more an impersonation issue than an appropriation one.

Ledian said:
it depends on culture.

BlackLicorice said:
So, in other words, you have no answer. Nothing "belongs" to a particular culture.

The cultures that don't want to share their stuff usually don't have any stuff worth sharing anyway. Why bother with their stuff when ours is almost always better?

BlackLicorice said:
So, in other words, you have no answer. Nothing "belongs" to a particular culture.

No, there are no 'in other words' in this answer. They mean what they said; "It depends on the culture." Certain cultures have certain subsets of certain familiar things that are important to them that they don't want other people just bandying about like it's nothing.

Asking the question in terms of things like music and clothes is a malformed question; There are SPECIFIC things that have heavy cultural significance, and other things which are born from the culture that may have less impact.

Like, just as another example:

I don't think anyone really cares if you wear a kimono. Traditional Japanese clothing is fun for everyone!

But don't expect to be treated kindly if you go dressing like a shinto priest or something and you haven't actually earned that status.

MoonlitSoul said:
I don't think anyone really cares if you wear a kimono.

Wanna bet? Japs don't care about other people wearing kimonos as far as I know, but certain americans do for some reason.

MoonlitSoul said:
But don't expect to be treated kindly if you go dressing like a shinto priest or something and you haven't actually earned that status.

Wouldn't that be a religious issue? That also sounds more like impersonation than appropriation.

BlueDingo said:
Wanna bet? Japs don't care about other people wearing kimonos as far as I know, but certain americans do for some reason.

You're using misguided opinions as a reason to ignore the legitimacy of the issue altogether, now.

Wouldn't that be a religious issue? That also sounds more like impersonation than appropriation.

Impersonation is one possible aspect of what's wrong with it, but it's really one of the least important parts, especially considering I don't think anyone would mistake you personally for a Shinto priest even if you wore the uniform.

And yeah, it is a religious issue, but there are very few people outside of native Japanese who would follow Shinto beliefs anyway, so there is a heavy cultural aspect to it.

MoonlitSoul said:
You're using misguided opinions as a reason to ignore the legitimacy of the issue altogether, now.

BuzzFeed in Japan did that had pretty much the same result: Japanese people don't care. Oh, right, Japanese people just have misguided opinions and we should be offended FOR them.

Impersonation is one possible aspect of what's wrong with it, but it's really one of the least important parts, especially considering I don't think anyone would mistake you personally for a Shinto priest even if you wore the uniform.

Then how is it wrong? "Oh no, someone dressed up as a Shinto priest! They're not harming anyone by doing so, but, let's be offended anyway!"

MoonlitSoul said:
You're using misguided opinions as a reason to ignore the legitimacy of the issue altogether, now.

The swiftness of your response suggests you didn't watch the video. Watch it, then respond.

MoonlitSoul said:
Impersonation is one possible aspect of what's wrong with it, but it's really one of the least important parts, especially considering I don't think anyone would mistake you personally for a Shinto priest even if you wore the uniform.

You do know that the whole point of uniforms is to let people know you're a person in a particular position at a glance, right? That's why cops don't like civilians walking around in cop uniforms: People see the uniform and think they're cops.

BlackLicorice said:
BuzzFeed in Japan did that had pretty much the same result: Japanese people don't care. Oh, right, Japanese people just have misguided opinions and we should be offended FOR them.

I was referring to the white people being offended FOR the Japanese people. Their hearts are sort of in the right place, I'll give them that, but yeah, in general, a kimono is just an article of clothing, same as any.

Then how is it wrong? "Oh no, someone dressed up as a Shinto priest! They're not harming anyone by doing so, but, let's be offended anyway!"

It's broadcasting a level of authority you don't have over something you never invested any part of yourself into. It's disrespectful. It's basically a sign saying "I don't respect your belief-system enough to put any sort of gravity or responsibility into it, this is just a costume to me" to the people who hold the ideas it represents dear to them.

It may not be harmful to them physically, if that's what you're trying to say. That said, I think people should generally hold the barest shred of respect for one-another necessary to not shit on things that are important to eachother and then hold the shat-on thing under the nose of the person to whom it holds some manner of personal significance.

BlueDingo said:
The swiftness of your response suggests you didn't watch the video. Watch it, then respond.

I didn't watch the video because I already agree with the point you maade. It's ridiculous for American people with no connection to Japanese culture to be offended on behalf of Japanese people over the wearing of kimonos, which by and large are basically just clothing.

Hell, not only that, it's considered flattery and a sign of respect to some people to take the time and show the interest in Japanese culture to dress traditionally.

MoonlitSoul said:
I'm just trying to point out a similarity between a certain set of expectations within our own culture, at least to the other Americans in here, and the expectations certain people have to their own cultural symbols. There are a lot of people who put pretty heavy weight on these things - me included, being the child of a Vietnam combat medic.

Then I'd suggest talking to people about those things when you find their behaviour offensive. Specifically and personally. There is no guarantee they will agree, but trying and failing is better, in my estimation, than saying 'That's cultural appropriation!', being defensive and vague. People do not respond to vagueness, behaving in this manner doesn't convey anything other than an attempt to control another person.

Maybe I am arguing in bad faith

I want to be clear, I am not saying this nor did I intend to say it.
I am saying that people saying "cultural appropriation!" generally do it in exactly that manner and it is a very good reason to regard their entire argument with profound suspicion. I would honestly recommend avoiding all identity-politics terms in discussion, because, as far as I can see, they are all poisoned in this way.

MoonlitSoul said:
And yeah, it is a religious issue, but there are very few people outside of native Japanese who would follow Shinto beliefs anyway, so there is a heavy cultural aspect to it.

Then it isn't a culture being imitated. It's a title. The other thing people forget is at what point it could be impersonating. For example, wearing the uniform of Queen Elizabeth's royal guard when you aren't one would be a terrible crime in the UK, but if you're in the United States, as long as Queen Elizabeth hasn't made any announcements about visiting, isn't currently visiting, and hasn't recently visited, you are probably fine. And if you're in your private home, anything goes. It's all location. At home, if I wanted to, I could wear a sash with a fake NYPD badge and nothing else and I wouldn't be doing anything wrong or illegal. I would look silly, but it's not illegal. And then there's the thing about derivatives. You know Japanese Kanji? What if I told you that could be considered to be appropriated from Mandarin Chinese? Or words that are written in Katakana? That is exclusively words that came from other languages. Hell, the word "hamburger" would have been considered to have been appropriated twice.

You can't own an aspect of culture. If someone uses it, you don't lose yours. And when people get so worked up about appropriation, they need to consider what a cultural exchange is. No culture can thrive beyond a certain point without interaction. Maybe in the short term or if it's small enough, but at a certain point, the lack of monopolies isn't just a law the US uses for economics. It's a natural law of civilization. After all, you still have what you give. It's not a commodity that is lost when exchanged. And it means you got big enough that you have fans. It's not often a nation gets fans that haven't just been told to be fans in this day and age. They don't have to. They are genuinely interested.

And if you are worried about it losing its meaning, think of it this way. While some would argue it isn't the original holder's job to educate, even if it were true, there is one other thing to consider. It's their opportunity to educate. Things improve a lot when we stop thinking of things as things we have to do and start thinking of things we get to do.

according to the thermostat in the hall, it is currently around 92-93 in the living room here. and a box fan, ventihood (or whatever that thing is called) over the stove, and 1 window unit all going at once struggle to keep it under 90 in there.

got those 2 metal fans and my window unit all at medium or high and it's still 75+ in my room right now. aunt & uncles room isn't somewhere in the middle as my uncle has the window unit and a couple fans going in there too.

and we thought we were past the heat. seems like it's returned with a vengeance.

just another month till autumn and a few more till winter.

just opening my bedroom door to go out right now is like "woah...ugh...geez" it's like walking into a wall of heat.

Highly politicized media organisations and postmodern neo marxists causing the "white supremacist neo-nazi" hysteria thats been going on in the US lately. I'm not saying these groups don't exsit but they're not as wide spread or have the influence that people think. The misconception that there's huge rise white supremacy ideology is mainly coming from the combined action of these two groups.

First off you have antifa. A bunch of bourgeoisie idiots that have been indoctrinated with a neo marxist ideology. Western civilization/culture is not only oppressive but its deeply racist too and the only way to free the oppressed from this system is to dismantle every facet of western civilization. These people think everyone to the right of Mao Zedong is a racist fascist and they must stopped at any cost. That is why every time they hold a protest it turns into a riot and since they're mostly protesting conservative speeches/ demonstrations, the MSM has been giving them a great deal of coverage because it severs as propaganda to smear conservatives as racist.

Then you have the MSM. They don't even try to hide the fact that they're propagandist for the left at this point and a common tactic of the left is to call conservatives racist, which the MSM has been helping pust the idea. When you start to campaign for presidency, you can't really control who is going to support you. If it turns out you have some questionable groups supporting you, there is not much you can do besides denounce support. So when David Duke gave trump his support, it was all down hill from there. Now trump's campaign is specifically targeting support from white supremacist and this when the term alt right started being used more.

At first everyone thought it was cool and started using the term. Untill people found out that the alt right was infested with shitposting internet nazis and had to denounce them. Even if you look at the alt right now its mainly comprised of you tubers and internet autist. The one people cry about the most is Richard Spencer, who's just a faggot that tries to pander to shitposting autist. No one cares about him, the only reason people pay any attention to him is because antifa is shutting down his events and the MSM is giving him free publicity. Since the alt right is kind bag of nut its kind of stupid to paint them all in the same light. Even if you don't like what they have to say, these people have no influence outside there internet communities and they're basically useful idiots they make great propaganda.

Now you take the Charlottesville shitshow. A few neo nazis and the kkk try to use the event for free coverage, some schizo freaks out and now there's white supremacist terrorists everywhere. Thats actually not case, pretty much all the people being betrayed as nazis, are not nazis. Now a few actually show up and people are freaking out because of the MSM's gaslighting.

treos said:
according to the thermostat in the hall, it is currently around 92-93 in the living room here. and a box fan, ventihood (or whatever that thing is called) over the stove, and 1 window unit all going at once struggle to keep it under 90 in there.

got those 2 metal fans and my window unit all at medium or high and it's still 75+ in my room right now. aunt & uncles room isn't somewhere in the middle as my uncle has the window unit and a couple fans going in there too.

and we thought we were past the heat. seems like it's returned with a vengeance.

just another month till autumn and a few more till winter.

just opening my bedroom door to go out right now is like "woah...ugh...geez" it's like walking into a wall of heat.

It's starting to warm up in my area. No more 2°c/35°f nights for a while.

pardon my politics but... you guys are already talking about these groups anyway.

This Week in Stupid (20/08/2017)

Formally recognize AntiFa as a terrorist organization

4 days and the survey has 131, 302 out of the needed 100k signatures for a response from the white house.

15:04 oh boy, here we go... CNN: "Unmasking the leftist Antifa movement: Activists seek peace through violence"

o_O peach through violence... how would that even be possible?

19:18 ugh...why is CNN still a thing? they aren't helping or making things better.

23:45 pot, say hello to kettle!

treos said:
Formally recognize AntiFa as a terrorist organization

4 days and the survey has 131,302 out of the needed 100k signatures for a response from the white house.

Let's aim for 2,000,000.

What are the odds that a counter-petition with about 13 signatures would be accepted over this one?

treos said:
This Week in Stupid (20/08/2017)

I reckon it would be really funny if the government closed off the areas with statues, relocated them to keep them safe and erected hard plastic replicas in their place. That way, every time these terrorists deface them or pull them down, they can just put another replica in its place. Have fun repeatedly knocking down the same hunk of plastic.

BlueDingo said:
Let's aim for 2,000,000.

What are the odds that a counter-petition with about 13 signatures would be accepted over this one?

with trump, i'm not so sure...

I reckon it would be really funny if the government closed off the areas with statues, relocated them to keep them safe and erected hard plastic replicas in their place. That way, every time these terrorists deface them or pull them down, they can just put another replica in its place. Have fun repeatedly knocking down the same hunk of plastic.

or maybe come up with an event like the one shown at the end of the video. pretty much turn their marching, shouting, and other pointless BS against them in a rather creative way.

edit: different topic

the fact that, to this day, the very mention of this movie/novel/etc.) is enough to remind me of memories of a certain evil clown that STILL haunts my mind.

:( no matter how much i wish otherwise, i have never been able to purge the images of that clown from my mind.

and last night i accidentally caught a trailer of the new movie on adult swim (yeah, horror movie trailers at night on a channel which airs content aimed at kids during the day. wtf, you freaks?). so now i have an image of some nasty bright blue face with bright yellow eyes rising out of water in what i assume was a flooded basement bothering me.

ain't memory and psychology freaking wonderful sometimes?

i can get to where i can ignore the word relation for the word "it" after a while but seeing or hearing anything from that show messes that up quickly.

Every news outlet on the planet referring to today's Eclipse as "The Great American Eclipse".

How pretentious do you have to be to claim en entire celestial event as your own?

FoxFourOhFour said:
Every news outlet on the planet referring to today's Eclipse as "The Great American Eclipse".

How pretentious do you have to be to claim en entire celestial event as your own?

It was first sighted by a man named Great American. People name things like this after themselves all the time.

FoxFourOhFour said:
Every news outlet on the planet referring to today's Eclipse as "The Great American Eclipse".

How pretentious do you have to be to claim en entire celestial event as your own?

Just because it moves all over the USA is no reason to call it American!

BlueDingo said:
It was first sighted by a man named Great American. People name things like this after themselves all the time.

no, it wasn't. plus, i think that usually applies just to newly discovered stuff and eclipses are nothing new. so i can see why that'd annoy some.

me, i'm more annoyed by the Ad Whore Channel aka The Weather Channel. seriously, can you people go 10 minutes without commercials? you're like a shitty website with 80%+ of each page flooded with a variety of different types of ads.

i'd watch it on the science channel but they don't seem too interested in it as they only have a small picture-in-picture thing showing the eclipse as it happens while they keep airing their regular shows.

still...with all the attention this agonizingly SLOW event drag along. i can't help but wonder how many freaks have decided to use this as an opportunity to come crawling out of the wood work for who knows how many creepy reasons.

lady on weather channels: keep your glasses on cuz your eyes can get sunburned... why does it even have to be said? do not look at the sun at ANY point in time without specialized equipment. OF COURSE it'll burn and injure your eyes! even my aunt & uncle have been going on and on about it. uh, aunt? uncle? ENOUGH WITH TALKING TO ME LIKE I AM AN IDIOT! SHUT. UP!

edit: o_O hmmm... *does a google search for the word "totality"* totality:

"the whole of something."

"the moment or duration of total obscuration of the sun or moon during an eclipse."

o_O is this a word they made up for this event? cause between that definition and how much they keep saying it and how they are using it shows it's some stupid buzz word more than anything.

enjoy your few hours of sounding smarter than you really are, weather channel people.

edit2: huh, cool... why are you people crying?

treos said:
no, it wasn't. plus, i think that usually applies just to newly discovered stuff and eclipses are nothing new. so i can see why that'd annoy some.

I think they might have been joking.

Thirtyeight said:
I think they might have been joking.

From what we've learned in the past, Treos doesn't grasp sarcasm very well.

FoxFourOhFour said:
From what we've learned in the past, Treos doesn't grasp sarcasm very well.

it's not my fault certain things don't translate through text very well. >.<

treos said:
it's not my fault certain things don't translate through text very well. >.<

I though it was obvious. When's the last time someone had "Great" as their first name? Or "American" as their last name?

treos said:
it's not my fault certain things don't translate through text very well. >.<

I'm Autistic and even I got the non-verbal cues. There is no excuse.

treos said:
it's not my fault certain things don't translate through text very well. >.<

"Great American" being a name is an obvious joke.

And anyway, what's wrong with calling it American if it's best visible from that continent? There's been plenty of eclipses in the past that have been called Asian, European, even Russian. Eclipses are not visible world-wide.

By the way, the next noteworthy eclipse will be the lunar eclipse on 31st of January, 2018. Visible from East Asia and Australia.

Furrin_Gok said:
"Great American" being a name is an obvious joke.

The same way that "Superman" or "Moonunit" being a name is an obvious joke?

(I mean, I thought "Great American" probably was a joke, but I don't really have a high confidence that people wouldn't do something exactly as crazy as that.)

savageorange said:
The same way that "Superman" or "Moonunit" being a name is an obvious joke?

...Moonunit?

treos said:
edit: o_O hmmm... *does a google search for the word "totality"* totality:

"the whole of something."

"the moment or duration of total obscuration of the sun or moon during an eclipse."

o_O is this a word they made up for this event? cause between that definition and how much they keep saying it and how they are using it shows it's some stupid buzz word more than anything.

enjoy your few hours of sounding smarter than you really are, weather channel people.

Totality is used to describe the type of eclipse, and has been used in that sense since the 1590's. Since the distance of the moon and earth isn't always the same we do have a lot of eclipses where the moon is in front of the sun, but doesn't blot it out completely because it's too far away from earth. There are also eclipses where the moon isn't perfectly centered in front of the sun, but passes partially in front of it.
Totality now means that the moon is perfectly centered in front of the sun, is close enough to earth to completely blot the sun out, and still leaves the corona visible.

As always the Wikipedia page on the topic is a good read if you have some time to spare.

BlueDingo said:
...Moonunit?

Moon Unit Zappa is an American actress and author .

Genjar said:
And anyway, what's wrong with calling it American if it's best visible from that continent? There's been plenty of eclipses in the past that have been called Asian, European, even Russian. Eclipses are not visible world-wide.

By the way, the next noteworthy eclipse will be the lunar eclipse on 31st of January, 2018. Visible from East Asia and Australia.

You don't see Canadians claiming "The Great Canadian Lunar Eclipse" or Europeans claiming "The Great European Aquarid shower".

It just smacks a bit too much of pretense. I could understand something that affects the country directly, But the actions of a burning ball of plasma and chunk of ex-earth-rock floating in space doesn't belong to anyone down here, And thank goodness for that.

FoxFourOhFour said:
It just smacks a bit too much of pretense.

It was called Great because of the scope. The previous Great American Eclipse was in 1878. Though the next one will happen in 2024, so this one wasn't quite the same level of once-in-a-lifetime experience as the first.

NotMeNotYou said:
Totality is used to describe the type of eclipse, and has been used in that sense since the 1590's. Since the distance of the moon and earth isn't always the same we do have a lot of eclipses where the moon is in front of the sun, but doesn't blot it out completely because it's too far away from earth. There are also eclipses where the moon isn't perfectly centered in front of the sun, but passes partially in front of it.
Totality now means that the moon is perfectly centered in front of the sun, is close enough to earth to completely blot the sun out, and still leaves the corona visible.

As always the Wikipedia page on the topic is a good read if you have some time to spare.

In short, the one's with a ring (the corona) people see in movies aren't what all of them look like, and the ones that aren't total eclipses don't have the ring.

For instance, I was just late enough in witnessing it and just far enough away that it looked light a larger brighter gibbous moon and there was no ring.

And we think of it as great for the same reason the Cubs saw their Super Bowl victory as great. We don't think it was great and for America. Just remove the "and".

The complete lack of respect some people have. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-essex-41012491

JoeX said:
The complete lack of respect some people have. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-essex-41012491

unbelievable... i'd say other choice words but what you said works just as well.

"Staff were "shocked and upset" at the "unbelievable incident", said conservator Claire Reed, who now has the job of repairing it."

understandable

"The museum was very busy on 4 August when visitors lifted the child over the clear plastic barrier and into the coffin, seemingly so they could take a photograph."

ಠ_ಠ they're so lucky it can be repaired but i'd still expect them to be fined or something if found.

history may be boring as all heck sometimes but still... what this family did is just dumb and irresponsible.

edit: incredible just how far some people will go to push their racist agendas.

Was the Great American Solar Eclipse racist? (no, it wasn't)

i'll skim over that article some other time. for now, throthgar once again.

When I download a game for my phone and the first thing it does after I load it up is start downloading more data. I already downloaded and installed you, why do you need to download so much more data? Why couldn't this extra data be part of the original install?

First, Fire Emblem Heroes (which from what little I actually played, was pretty good) did this to me three times (>600MB total) before I said fuck this and uninstalled it. I'm not wasting that much of my phone's memory on one game. Now Tales of the Rays wants to download more data despite the app already being 100MB in size. Both games also want me to be online at all times to play them, too.

That's another thing that annoys me: Online only single player games. Sure, it makes sense with World of Warcraft where online multiplayer is the focus of the game, but not when it's a single player game. If I'm not playing against anyone then let me play it offline, damnit.

Edit: According to onehallyu.com, Tales of the Rays is ~497MB altogether which isn't too big for me. The forced online still shits me off, though.

BlueDingo said:
When I download a game for my phone and the first thing it does after I load it up is start downloading more data. I already downloaded and installed you, why do you need to download so much more data? Why couldn't this extra data be part of the original install?

First, Fire Emblem Heroes (which from what little I actually played, was pretty good) did this to me three times (>600MB total) before I said fuck this and uninstalled it. I'm not wasting that much of my phone's memory on one game. Now Tales of the Rays wants to download more data despite the app already being 100MB in size. Both games also want me to be online at all times to play them, too.

That's another thing that annoys me: Online only single player games. Sure, it makes sense with World of Warcraft where online multiplayer is the focus of the game, but not when it's a single player game. If I'm not playing against anyone then let me play it offline, damnit.

Edit: According to onehallyu.com, Tales of the Rays is ~497MB altogether which isn't too big for me. The forced online still shits me off, though.

it could be updates. seems like i can't go one game on ps4 without it starting an update download as soon as i start up said game.

updates, updates, and more updates. i know it helps the games and in some cases they add content with them but it does get annoying after a while and it makes me glad i asked for the 1TB model. oh and speaking of, gonna have to rerent one of the sword art online games sometime as that big content update everyone had been waiting for came out (11GB+ download . yikes).

treos said:
it could be updates. seems like i can't go one game on ps4 without it starting an update download as soon as i start up said game.

Some of the Fire Emblem Heroes data might be updates, but after a little looking around, I found this Gamefaqs page which suggests it's due to an app store filesize restriction.

Also, I found an okay idle RPG game: Logging Quest 2. You do have to create the characters and toy around with their equipment, skills, etc. but once you send them on an adventure, the dungeon exploration, monster battles, etc. are performed autonomously. It can run in the background, too, so you can do other shit (or turn your phone off) while it sits there playing with itself.

treos said:
really? and you guys ban anyone under the age of 18 here. maybe we should start letting that slide too.

I recommend learning the definition of "joke", or just stop taking everything on the internet so seriously.

ok, people, i get it. i made a fucking mistake on the internet. now get off my case and focus on something else cause that is something that really pisses me off.

LightningBlaze said:
I recommend learning the definition of "joke", or just stop taking everything on the internet so seriously.

ಠ_ಠ then stop carrying on about one mistake i made and let the matter end. all your doing by going on and on about it is pissing me off. you're not helping anything, none of you are.

i don't do "jokes" because usually, i find them to be dumb or simply not very amusing. though that's not to say i don't find some things funny of course.

also, what you quoted was sarcasm...probably. i don't remember where i said that.

Any time someone says "Person X didn't discover place Y because someone else was there first." because they clearly don't know what discover means and are usually trying to justify changing or removing something that shouldn't be changed or removed.

Recent offender: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuUF2A9ozA0

treos said:
pardon my politics but... you guys are already talking about these groups anyway.

This Week in Stupid (20/08/2017)

>Judging people of the past, based off what we currently consider as moral behavior is fucking retarded.
Holy shit dropping the common sense bomb. The fact that anyone has to mention this, makes wonder WTF is wrong with people nowadays.

15:04 oh boy, here we go... CNN: "Unmasking the leftist Antifa movement: Activists seek peace through violence"

That article/videos was the most cancerous thing i've seen. It must take an amazing amount of mental gymnastics to believe that they're actually morally justified in their actions. These people are so delusional they really think they're fighting against "white supremacy" and the evil capitalist, to help the "oppressed" "minorities". The only thing that makes worry about declaring them terrorist, is that they'll make it seem like they're being oppressed by "white supremacy".

o_O peach through violence... how would that even be possible?

Doublethink and remember "violence is peace" comrade. So whenever you see antifa engaging in their glorious revolution against the evil "white supremacist" capitalist. Give them support by reciting the slogans of the Party.

Violence is peace
Freedom is slavery
Ignorance is strength

ThoughtCrime said:
Doublethink and remember "violence is peace" comrade. So whenever you see antifa engaging in their glorious revolution against the evil "white supremacist" capitalist. Give them support by reciting the slogans of the Party.

Violence is peace
Freedom is slavery
Ignorance is strength

Ironically enough the term actually used was "Blackwhite". I believe the term for their enthusiasm as well as blind following are both called "duckspeak". In true newspeak fashion, which one I meant is whatever bb doesn't want me to have meant.

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darn friggin... i try to talk about my walking stance (similar to digitigrade where my knees are bent slightly and heels are kept ~3 inches off the ground) and all anyone cares about is focusing on the negative.

it's always just "well, evolution made us this way for a reason" or "just because you can do something doesn't mean you should".

and if you want to talk about abusing your body in regards to something like this? go talk to all the martial artists throughout all of history who abused the living F out of their bodies in training alone.

has walking this way resulted in any last downsides for me? only a couple. 1 was my knees aching for about a week years ago until i got used to this stance. the other is this stance results in a somewhat weaker lower back which regular Fing exercise CAN and DOES help with!

beyond that, i have endured NO long term problems at all. in fact, right now, my legs are likely the strongest they've ever been in my whole life.

tch...i'd like to see any of you plantigrade walkers try balancing on one foot in this stance without falling down within ~30 seconds or less. >.>

"Because in the end, we can all fantasize all we want about being furries, but bodies evolve a certain way to best suit a certain purpose. And human bodies evolved for plantigrade walking. Obviously, there's even less need in nowadays for a human to move faster or quieter, so the body would have no reason to revert back to digitigrade on it's own."

simple response to that: i do this because i want to, not because i need to. the same goes for exercising or working out or practicing any of the basic martial arts stuff i like to do. i don't HAVE to do any of that but i can and i do because i like doing so (that and i like practicing and coming up with ways of getting ever faster).

and no, i'm in no way trying to emulate or fantasize about being an anthro or something by doing this. i live in this world known as reality.

blah blah blah long term damage blah blah blah only using half my muscle to do the job blah blah blah medical stuff massage stuff blah blah blah negative negative AND MORE NEGATIVE! not one positive thing to say out of ANY of you! pretty much nothing but saying i'm in the wrong for doing something i like to do. that would bother pretty much anyone.

this wouldn't bother me NEARLY as much if you all weren't so damned focused on the downsides and negative results of walking this way. damn all of your BS! my legs are just fine and i haven't suffered any major leg/foot injuries for as long as i can remember (aside from a charley horse a while back but that's a cramp, not a major injury and certainly nothing long term).

treos said:
things

I'm wondering if any of the irony is setting in that you say stuff like this when like 75% of the history of this thread is you talking trash about trans people for wanting to be treated with respect.

Cats. Do I have to say more?

Siral_Exan said:
Cats. Do I have to say more?

But I liked that musical...

Siral_Exan said:
Cats. Do I have to say more?

The only thing that really makes me upset about cats is that my cat hates snuggles.