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bitwolfy said:
Foreach loops in HTML, that's just funny.
If you're not familiar with <% or <?php and the way the server processes these, you probably don't need to be involving yourself in such a matter. If you ask, I can teach you, but I'm not about to argue.
How to get rid of hidden posts without having to login.
It is very annoying to go to an artist page and only see 2 images and have to login to see the rest.
Sincerely Kyle
Farewell favorite button, we had a good run...
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Haven't read the whole thread, but right now trying to log in always brings back to the main page, rather than the page/image we were logging in from. I'm pretty sure the functionality was there before, can this be brought back?
incadescence said:
Haven't read the whole thread, but right now trying to log in always brings back to the main page, rather than the page/image we were logging in from. I'm pretty sure the functionality was there before, can this be brought back?
Good catch, I'll be adding this to the pile.
Thank you for finally pulling the trigger and changing it over. Being in limbo with it was annoying. I'm glad there is at least a little bit of api documentation now.
Why did you think getting rid of the + and - by the tags was a good idea? That was likely one of the most useful features for searching you had.
weirdly early for an april fools joke, perhaps stop kidding *yourselves* now and fix this laughable mess you've gone and introduced us to
oh, and what fucking clown thought to get rid of the gif/webm tags? insert fucking bamboo shoots under their toenails and have them kick a wall, please and thank you.
ermos said:
Why did you think getting rid of the + and - by the tags was a good idea? That was likely one of the most useful features for searching you had.
They'll be making a comeback soon.
As will the bigger gif and webm markers.
Not gonna lie, locking tags under a login was one horrible design decision, and I can't think of anyone who benefits from the way it's implemented.
bleph said:
I also thought that I should start pruning my favs, and I only have 8,000... I've been on this site for years. 80,000 seems like an unreachable number.e: now that I think about it there's no way someone like Karackas actually fav'd 92,000 posts in 9 years. That has to be via a bot or something automatically faving posts without looking at them, nobody is legitimately faving over 10,000 posts in one year
If you don’t need to look at more than 2 or 3 images per visit to this site, then you seriously need to work on your stamina.
notmenotyou said:
They'll be making a comeback soon.As will the bigger gif and webm markers.
Will I be able to favorite things again soon, or do I need a second account in order to support images and artists in that way?
I guess I can be patient while everything else is fixed up, but that really bugs me.
notmenotyou said:
Because the codebase was done for a few months now and nobody wanted to provide additional feedback on the layout during the beta.
Like, we gave ample notice and options for people to chime in. Both threads were in the stickies for ages.
I am actually deeply sorry for never having noticed that. :c
*sees all this bitching about the new site*
new site?? ...I guess..the layout is slightly different?? and I had to re-login??
It seems faster and I like the way pools are handled and include search results in the top now.
*the bitching grows louder*
okay I guess I'll just go back to using the site that works fine and enjoying myself. I guess if I ever wanna laugh at tantrums I can come back to the forums though.
(Seriously thanks for all the hard work. Hopefully you can strip down everyone's vitriol to only useful critique to make the site even better. I think you did a fantastic job on porting everything to an entirely new system and software set with minimal loss and I know things will only improve.)
Welp, e621 joins the ranks of 'Furry joke sites'.
notmenotyou said:
They'll be making a comeback soon.As will the bigger gif and webm markers.
What about the ability to favorite things if you're above 80k favorites already? I keep harping on about this if only because the forum it was mentioned in is locked and it's a pretty big deal to me using this site. Why was a cap added in the first place?
With gifs and videos showing the same play icon on the thumbnail... are you guys planning on fixing that so people can tell the difference before clicking on it?
Yeah thanks for ruining the danbooru clients compatibility, that was the best workaround for mobile and is gone now
egekilde said:
One thing I dearly miss is the name of the user who uploaded an image. It would make sense to put it under the "information" section. Right now it just shows who approved it, and not who uploaded it.
You can still find out the uploader by checking the user that figures in version 1 of the post (yes, posts are now versioned). Just look at the Tags/Desc button on the History section of a post
But you're right, it's not as convenient as it should be
I honestly can’t effectively put into words how irritated this “upgrade” to the site has made me. I’ve used the site often through a third party app which now has no idea how to access it. I’ve spent considerable time on the site through web browsers but now everything that i’d come to know and love about the site is broken or missing. If there was a way to fire whoever did this i’d be pushing for it as hard as i could. You should be embarrassed with this piece of unfinished trash that you decided to force down everyone’s throat. I really don’t care if the new site was in beta for months, i come here to look at porn, follow webcomics, and get occasional phone backgrounds, I dont come here to help some incompetent developer try to make his trash palatable. You’ve pretty much ruined everything that made this site legendary amongst the furry community, but hey, you got what you wanted so fuck everybody else right? I hope you choke on it.
forsaken621 said:
I honestly can’t effectively put into words how irritated this “upgrade” to the site has made me. I’ve used the site often through a third party app which now has no idea how to access it. I’ve spent considerable time on the site through web browsers but now everything that i’d come to know and love about the site is broken or missing. If there was a way to fire whoever did this i’d be pushing for it as hard as i could. You should be embarrassed with this piece of unfinished trash that you decided to force down everyone’s throat. I really don’t care if the new site was in beta for months, i come here to look at porn, follow webcomics, and get occasional phone backgrounds, I dont come here to help some incompetent developer try to make his trash palatable. You’ve pretty much ruined everything that made this site legendary amongst the furry community, but hey, you got what you wanted so fuck everybody else right? I hope you choke on it.
Harshly worded, but I sadly don’t disagree in the slightest.
Wow, this is hideous. I'll come back in a few months and see if it gets less gross looking I guess.
Lurker here. Just wanted to say that I have mixed opinions on the redesign as a whole. I understand that the admins wanted to refresh the site or something along the lines of that, but overall I feel that many of the changes were either detrimental or unnecessary. I'm not a UX designer but here are some of my thoughts on the UI I have seen so far (this list is incomplete).
PROS
NEUTRAL
CONS
Overall this redesign really needs some improvement. I feel that it should've spent a lot more time being improved and fixed before being released to the public. It also didn't help that there was hardly any indication of the redesign arriving; yeah you had a forum post stickied or something for the last 5 months, but very few people actually use the forum compared to the main area of the site. I wasn't even aware that there would be a redesign until it was implemented, and I've been lurking here much longer than 5 months! I hope it'll improve in due course and the admins have said that they will be fixing a lot of the UI clunkiness in the near future, but as it stands I feel that the redesign was a regression compared to the old site.
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Currently the plan is likely another day or two of critical bug fixing (we've identified a few more things that were working in the beta but magically aren't right now), and afterwards directly tackle the UI. We hope to have things much more consistent on all clients before next week is over.
Will there be a way to change where the buttons are for the pools it’s kinda annoying being in the middle of the screen
burninglance said:
what he/she said.just yesterday i could view posts, comments etc and everything even while not logged in on a PS Vita, Wii U mobile etc.
but now i cant.
seems the mods and admin dropped the ball on this ''update''
This. I literally made an account just now because surprise, surprise, I can't use the site on my Wii U anymore. Well I can, but pictures never load wether logged in or not, mobile activated or disabled. Even my phone doesn't load stuff on this site.
Edit: I'd like to restate mobile support is horrendous. Pictures don't load on my Wii U or phone. I wanna be comfortable when looking at porn so no laptop. The mobile disable thingy doesn't work or help. Granted, I only got on to look at stuff once every week or so, I saw nothing about a beta. I sure as shit saw the latest news while searching so maybe you could have ''HEY WE'RE LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK'' sticky'd in that news. Well, whatever. Someone let me know when this stuff works on mobile again.
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kazmatic said:
What about the ability to favorite things if you're above 80k favorites already? I keep harping on about this if only because the forum it was mentioned in is locked and it's a pretty big deal to me using this site. Why was a cap added in the first place?
The limit has been imposed (as written here) due to performance issues. Depending how the site performance develops and keeps up we will be either increasing the limit, or removing it outright. But at the moment it'll stay what it is until we have some useful data collected, but we'll monitor it.
koder said:
With gifs and videos showing the same play icon on the thumbnail... are you guys planning on fixing that so people can tell the difference before clicking on it?
Yes, the old markers, including the ability to differentiate, will be making a comeback.
angryporn said:
This. I literally made an account just now because surprise, surprise, I can't use the site on my Wii U anymore. Well I can, but pictures never load wether logged in or not, mobile activated or disabled. Even my phone doesn't load stuff on this site.
We've changed the blacklist to only fetch submissions after the blacklist kicked in, to prevent the split second of people being able to see blacklisted content. This, however, necsessiated some more aggressive use of JavaScript, which old consoles doesn't support. I would heavily recommend using a better device than a game console to browse, and in particular a modern browser on your phone. Both Firefox and Chrome on Android above 2.4.2 should have no issues handling our site.
thuser85230558 said:
- Underneath comments and forum posts there is now a message that says when it was last updated. (Cuurently bugged, hopefully this will be fixed)
I don't think this is bugged, it's probably the result of a batch import.
I keep on reading it as someone trying to say something quietly though.
CONS
- Comment scores have been removed (I think this is being worked on but I'm not sure?)
.. not on my system. take e621.net/comments for example, or a post/12345 page, the scores are listed.
- Uploader name is no longer shown on the post page. You can still view who uploaded a post by going to the post's History page (I think?)
yep
- Various other issues that I can't recall atm, I might edit this post in the future
also (I guess this is in the NEUTRAL category)
(I addressed this by reducing the font size of descriptions, but huge tag lists still occupy a fair bit of space)
notmenotyou said:
The current layout is terrible.
It will be improved and polished as time goes on. Getting the new codebase up and running had a higher priority than making it look pretty, simply because the old codebase was basically held together by wishes and duct tape, and was vulnerable to a few things on top of having atrocious performance.
I like it. I see a few things what may need tweaking, but its nice. Also, much faster. Thanks! :o) Have a good day.
I'm having an issue with the how your own deleted posts are displayed. It used to be when you clicked to view your list of deleted posts it would be a list showing each post in order of when they were deleted, for whatever reason, with the most recently deleted being placed at the top. But now when I click on it, it just shows a bunch of deleted thumbnail icons, like a regular search would. The problem being that these icons are ordered by when the file was originally posted, not when it was deleted. Meaning I could have a post that was deleted today, but was initially posted months ago and at this point I'd have no way of finding out which post got deleted.
This might be a little bit silly but the Upvote / Downvote option is MY most useful option to check new posts, I use it as some sort of seen tag and now that has changed to a ▲/▼, the Firefox I use doesn't recognize those symbols when I select to click one of them by using CTRL+V, can you change it back up the "Up / Down" as it was before?
dark_light said:
You can still find out the uploader by checking the user that figures in version 1 of the post (yes, posts are now versioned). Just look at the Tags/Desc button on the History section of a postBut you're right, it's not as convenient as it should be
You can't view this unless you login, which is ridiculous.
notmenotyou said:
We've changed the blacklist to only fetch submissions after the blacklist kicked in, to prevent the split second of people being able to see blacklisted content. This, however, necessitated some more aggressive use of JavaScript, which old consoles doesn't support.
Older devices, and people that actually give a damn about security. I've had Flash and JavaScript disabled by default for twenty odd years now, and was telling people to remove their Flash plugins well before the major browsers just up and did it themselves. /me puts on hipster glasses
JS is an ancient crutch, and should be next on the chopping block. I'd recommend having a JS-free 'lite' mode accessible via an alternate url in much the same way that old.reddit works.
So it's still possible to search in your favs, but clicking the favorites button does not default to the search menu. You need to click an image to get the website to type in the fav:username for you. Change the favorites page so you can search right away again.
I hate the child pool UI and pool UI. While pools are for comics where you read them page by page, and often scene by scene drawn like a comic book (though not always), you tend to scroll down as you read, and want the button at the bottom. Child posts are not usually sequential though, they are intended to be alternate versions of the same image, or maybe a second or third page sequentially. Because they often look like standalone images hiding the child posts at the bottom means you might not realize they are there, especially if you are new to the site and don't know what the borders mean yet. Child posts should be placed back on top of the image, and pools should be at the bottom. I think the UI would be fine if they were inverted (Child UI at top, Pool UI at bottom), though I would prefer it if the child page UI were a bit bigger, it's too easy to not see it as it is now.
obligatory "Oh no my image grabber is broken and I have to download stuff manually!" comment, it'll be fixed by th dev sooner or later though, I'm sure. Sorry to end on shitpost but I gave two well thought out responses at least *shrugs*.
jace27 said:
I hate the child pool UI and pool UI. While pools are for comics where you read them page by page, and often scene by scene drawn like a comic book (though not always), you tend to scroll down as you read, and want the button at the bottom.
Personally, I like the pool navigation at the top, though on the left side next to the picture instead of right above it pushing the picture down. Reason being, yes I scroll down to read the page, but then I may (or may not) continue scrolling down to read the comments. If the navbar is at the top, I'm always just a button press away from jumping right back there (Home key or right-click on the scrollbar's up arrow) where it's easily accessible, whereas if it's under the picture, there's no quick way to jump there and have to manually scroll to the top of the comments and bottom of the image.
oh also forgot to mention in my previous post
i also cant see the pictures etc on the vita, wii u etc even when logged in as well.
digitalman said:
If you're not familiar with <% or <?php and the way the server processes these, you probably don't need to be involving yourself in such a matter. If you ask, I can teach you, but I'm not about to argue.
That's PHP, not HTML.
burninglance said:
oh also forgot to mention in my previous posti also cant see the pictures etc on the vita, wii u etc even when logged in as well.
Yep, we got someone else already giving this complaint about the wii. It's because the javascript implementation on these platforms are inadequate. On the old platform that would result in all the thumbnails being visible, even blacklisted ones; on the new one, it results in no thumbnails being visible.
Why are so many art hidden? From the sheet is hidden from 1 to half of all.
Even after registration.
Question... How do I add tags to my favorites search?
harleycs said:
This might be a little bit silly but the Upvote / Downvote option is MY most useful option to check new posts, I use it as some sort of seen tag and now that has changed to a ▲/▼, the Firefox I use doesn't recognize those symbols when I select to click one of them by using CTRL+V, can you change it back up the "Up / Down" as it was before?
I’d like to echo this sentiment. As a mobile user, it takes a dozen tries to hit the button, and given it’s right below the source links, I get redirected each time.
notmenotyou said:
We've changed the blacklist to only fetch submissions after the blacklist kicked in, to prevent the split second of people being able to see blacklisted content. This, however, necsessiated some more aggressive use of JavaScript, which old consoles doesn't support. I would heavily recommend using a better device than a game console to browse, and in particular a modern browser on your phone. Both Firefox and Chrome on Android above 2.4.2 should have no issues handling our site.
I currently is Edge (Microsoft’s browser) for iOS 12.
Why was the search bar on the Favorites page taken out? We cant search specific tags for images in the Faves list anymore, its pretty annoying!
savageorange said:
That's PHP, not HTML.
That's PHP, JSP, ASP/.NET, and Ruby, at the very least, and you'd put them in the HTML files for inline processing of data before the files are sent to the client. That is literally how web pages are generated. The only other option would be, like, having your base control logic spitting out lines of HTML as it goes, but I've actually never seen anyone bad enough to try that.
aaron_brickhouse said:
JS is an ancient crutch, and should be next on the chopping block. I'd recommend having a JS-free 'lite' mode accessible via an alternate url in much the same way that old.reddit works.
Okay, if you're going to turn off JS, you lose any right to complain about the results. That one isn't their fault.
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tokaitori said:]
Ask the moderators and janitors and they willhappilyexplain to you the difference between a drawing of a furry and irl CP, and why Cub porn is not going anywhere off this site. It is too late in the day for me to get into a debate about this.The short version is, because it's pictures of smol animal people which obviously don't exist irl, there's no real way for somebody to go "omg it's literally irl child pornography" without sounding like you've got a screw loose and stretching so far you could be a human bridge spanning the Grand Canyon, and there is literally no law on the books in the U.S that deals with "anthropomorphic artwork", so it's allowed here, while human-based loli and shota are more of a debatable topic that could get someone in trouble depending on the state they live in.
If you want a better explanation because I'm fucking tired and it's almost midnight, ask a mod or a janitor or just go on but remember that insulting other users for liking cub art or calling them "pedophiles" is against the rules.
I suppose that we fail to see eachother’s points. By the very basic definition of pedophilia—being sexually interested in children—, being a cub-ophile is being a pedophile. I was making absolutely no connection to the real world.
Though, I will concede that clinical pedophilia does require some high level of fixation on the subject.
”From Wikipedia:”:\https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia
Pedophilia (alternatively spelt paedophilia) is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children.[1][2] Although girls typically begin the process of puberty at age 10 or 11, and boys at age 11 or 12,[3] criteria for pedophilia extend the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13.[4] A person must be at least 16 years old, and at least five years older than the prepubescent child, for the attraction to be diagnosed as pedophilia.
From the site wiki:
A cub is a young, underaged, furry character.This phrase can be used for furries, and feral characters alike. While many species (cats, horses, etc) use different words to refer to their young (kittens, foals, etc), the phrase cub should be used instead for sake of clarity.
Cub should NOT be used in reference to a human, humanoid, or animal_humanoid.
While most cubs are quite young (4-10, in human years), the phrase cub can refer to all physically immature and legally underage characters, ranging from infants, to young teenagers.
twobrains said:
lol at these "forced to make an account" jackasses. imagine publicly admitting that you're upset that e621 made it _slightly_ harder for pedophiles to get offtokaitori said:
Bruh. Cub isn't pedophilia.blackasnight said:
It isnot? How do you figure?
I think it's better to separate "pedophile"(sexual attraction to REAL KIDS, and illegal EVERYWHERE) from "lolicon"/"shotacon"/"cubcon?"(sexual? attraction to DRAWINGS of maybe kids, young looking adults/immortals, fictional species(in regards to our own world) ect. which is legal... at least in a few places(should be everywhere if you ask me, drawings don't harm anyone or thing physically)).
It's that distinction, and words are used to mean different things, calling someone a lolicon, someone hearing that doesn't know will be like, "oh, some kind of weeb", while someone that does know, would still see it as "weeb shit", but like, next level "weeb shit?" They'd raise an eyebrow, shake their head disapprovingly, or, if they're some kinda white knight that can't differentiate between real and fantasy and think loli art is no different than real CP, they'll get into a debate that never helps matters and only makes a scene.
But if you call someone a pedophile, EVERYONE will go "oh my god, they touch children?!" without question. Words... Are... IMPORTANT.
digitalman said:
That's PHP, JSP, ASP/.NET, and Ruby, at the very least, and you'd put them in the HTML files for inline processing of data before the files are sent to the client.
I remind you that you stated 'a foreach loop in HTML', which is strictly impossible. The templating language you use is necessarily, and by definition, not HTML; using syntax which resembles HTML does not make it HTML. It's only clearly HTML if you can throw it at the browser with no further processing and get a correct result.
savageorange said:
I remind you that you stated 'a foreach loop in HTML', which is strictly impossible.
Oh! I see now, no, that was that other guy's inference of what I said, because he doesn't know how server-side languages work. It is, however, located in the HTML files, referred to as "views" in an MVC architecture. A fine example is located here, though less separated than most: https://github.com/danbooru/danbooru/blob/master/app/views/layouts/blank.html.erb
getagrip said:
I'm having an issue with the how your own deleted posts are displayed. It used to be when you clicked to view your list of deleted posts it would be a list showing each post in order of when they were deleted, for whatever reason, with the most recently deleted being placed at the top. But now when I click on it, it just shows a bunch of deleted thumbnail icons, like a regular search would. The problem being that these icons are ordered by when the file was originally posted, not when it was deleted. Meaning I could have a post that was deleted today, but was initially posted months ago and at this point I'd have no way of finding out which post got deleted.
On top of this, when you go to the deleted post's page it doesn't seem to state which moderator carried out the deletion anymore.
As for uploading page:
1. I notice it no longer provides an easy link to how many uploads you have pending for approval.
2. Something odd when you upload a pic and then go back to the upload page because you just want to adjust the tags you previously entered, such as whem making a child post. If I so much as delete the previous post's url, every other bit of text that was in the other tag sections will get deleted too.
3. I tried to upload an inkbunny pic using its download url as usual, but it kept saying that the file type's maximum size was 0Mb... I had to upload the actual file to make it work. Not sure if this is now a problem with inkbunny links in general or just that particular post. It's not recognozing the new pixiv urls either, but thats been an issue for a while now.
turbotowns said:
I think it's better to separate "pedophile"(sexual attraction to REAL KIDS, and illegal EVERYWHERE) from "lolicon"/"shotacon"/"cubcon?"(sexual? attraction to DRAWINGS of maybe kids, young looking adults/immortals, fictional species(in regards to our own world) ect. which is legal... at least in a few places(should be everywhere if you ask me, drawings don't harm anyone or thing physically)).It's that distinction, and words are used to mean different things, calling someone a lolicon, someone hearing that doesn't know will be like, "oh, some kind of weeb", while someone that does know, would still see it as "weeb shit", but like, next level "weeb shit?" They'd raise an eyebrow, shake their head disapprovingly, or, if they're some kinda white knight that can't differentiate between real and fantasy and think loli art is no different than real CP, they'll get into a debate that never helps matters and only makes a scene.
But if you call someone a pedophile, EVERYONE will go "oh my god, they touch children?!" without question. Words... Are... IMPORTANT.
This makes complete sense. Thank you.
I find it somewhat ironic that using this site (and actually reading comments and such rather that ignoring them) teaches me more about normal people than I usually pick up in real life. e.g.Not until now have I truely considered the ramifications of identifying our pedophilia as such. Though I do think that it is important for us all to recognize that fact—even if we donot want to. Ideally, we should be able to give the “fantasy is not reality” speech(a common one around here) to the rest of the world. Many real deviances—including pedophilia and many types of violence—are already treated through prescribed fiction-writing. I am probably pulling this one out of my ass, because I have no Idea where I heard that :/
Noone claimed that words arenot important.
Well…
I could repeat a lot of things that were already said. About not knowing, not using forum (I used it 2-3 times before this, I think), looks and rest of things that were quite exstensively commented about by few users that actually backed their opinions with "why" and not just went on hate bandwagon.
I can wait for new look. This one is supposed to be temporary. I even compared it with old by web archive and is roughly quite similar but that's the small things that make difference. I hope this will work out for everyone.
Only real complain I have is – if you knew that work was not finished why did you pushed it public? Were backend problems such critical that they could not wait a bit more? Often when backend is mess you can feel it in front end (maybe beside security) and I did not have them.
Anyway, godspeed everyone.
Will there be an increase on the favorite cap?
Love the changes. The mobile version works a lot better for me.
digitalman said:
Oh! I see now, no, that was that other guy's inference of what I said, because he doesn't know how server-side languages work. It is, however, located in the HTML files, referred to as "views" in an MVC architecture. A fine example is located here, though less separated than most: https://github.com/danbooru/danbooru/blob/master/app/views/layouts/blank.html.erb
I assure you, I know perfectly well how server-side languages work.
I chose to stop arguing with you because instead of actually addressing my comment, you cherry-picked one small point and started arguing over that. That's a very clear red flag - a hint that talking to you wouldn't get anywhere, that you are more concerned with "winning" rather than actually discussing the topic.
But if you want to indulge in pedantry, here is what you said.
digitalman said: [the HTML file] contain only very basic variable parsing, and a foreach loop for comments and tags.
Notice how you didn't mention anything about server-side languages there. Absolutely nothing. Zero.
It leads one to assume that you believe that pure HTML has variables and could be used to create "foreach loops for comments and tag".
I will not argue about this. You may act smug all you want, that does not make the point you made back in your original point any more coherent.
I have no idea how many admins are present in this tread, but skimming through it I see pretty much all criticism being completely ignored where as general queries aren't, that pretty much makes this an echo chamber, never go against the narrative, pretend the old site never existed.
It saddens me because e6 was always my go to site, in fact it's the only imageboard I'm registered with, but at the moment it's just feels way too clunky for regular use (even on Firefox 73.0.1 on Arch, which has never had any issues in the past), I can't even just batch download my favorites and migrate to another site like furry.booru as all third-party programs are broken. I guess I'll come back every so often in the vain hope that it get anywhere close to the greatness of the way it used to be, but for now I'll stick with the other Danbooru sites that still retain compatibility.
articfoxxxx said:
I have no idea how many admins are present in this tread, but skimming through it I see pretty much all criticism being completely ignored where as general queries aren't, that pretty much makes this an echo chamber, never go against the narrative, pretend the old site never existed.It saddens me because e6 was always my go to site, in fact it's the only imageboard I'm registered with, but at the moment it's just feels way too clunky for regular use (even on Firefox 73.0.1 on Arch, which has never had any issues in the past), I can't even just batch download my favorites and migrate to another site like furry.booru as all third-party programs are broken. I guess I'll come back every so often in the vain hope that it get anywhere close to the greatness of the way it used to be, but for now I'll stick with the other Danbooru sites that still retain compatibility.
That's because we can't do anything with the criticism that isn't actually bug reports or feature requests, as going back improves nothing, it'd just preserve a status quo that becomes more and more unfeasible as time marches forward and the site continues to outgrow its capabilities.
We're 100% aware of the growing pains, but they're necessary if we want to keep moving forward and have a chance at actually, objectively improving the site, and continue being able to actually offer it to users.
As for ignoring the criticism, every single bug report or missing feature has been noted and will be fixed, and sooner than later.
articfoxxxx said:
I have no idea how many admins are present in this tread, but skimming through it I see pretty much all criticism being completely ignored where as general queries aren't, that pretty much makes this an echo chamber, never go against the narrative, pretend the old site never existed.
It's not that admins pretend the old site never existed. It's just that comments like "bring back the old theme" are not really productive.
I guess Inkbunny really will be the only functional furry site.
With a favorite cap now in place, would it make sense to be able to archive the oldest additions to free up space. (like transferring 10 000 to a set) in case you ever hit the cap.
morp said: I guess Inkbunny really will be the only functional furry site.
e621: has issues during a major update that take time to fix
Users: SITE IS RUINED FOREVER
I really dont care for change but i can get use to the new site, the main thing i would say is i don't care for where the Parent/children post is now and the pool being spread across the top is a bit of an eye sore if it was back where it originally was i think that was the best spot for it.
I also have noticed the site doesn't seem to work on certain browsers im not sure if that's a bug or its just not supported with them anymore I.E for example (I know old af but its what i always used to browse my porn)
Finally I find the search option now having the auto fill is amazing and a great addition.
I don't love the new site look but with a few changes here and there i think it will be better then the old by far
kn0t said:
Will there be an increase on the favorite cap?
Uhh... There's a favorite cap?
blackasnight said:
Not until now have I truely considered the ramifications of identifying our pedophilia as such. Though I do think that it is important for us all to recognize that fact—even if we donot want to.
Yeah well, even though I'm a lolicon, I would never touch a real kid in any sexual way(I want to get violent with a lot of the little bastards, but that's illegal too), nor do I see them in a way that I would WANT to touch them that way.
Maybe you could call it Soft/Mild Pedophilia, not True Pedophilia. It did take me awhile to really sit down and think about this though. To come to terms with these feelings, and what it makes me. This is hard to justify to anyone except for those that share this "kink", and it's not something I can really wear on my sleeve like I do with everything else. But even though there are and will be people that see me as some kid touching monster(never moving to Alabama now that it's passed that new law) possibly for my whole life, I know that I'm no threat to any kid(I'd rather stay as far away from those annoying like munchkins as possible), and I'm comfortable with who and what I am.
turbotowns said:
Uhh... There's a favorite cap?
80,000. I cannot favorite anything because of it.
I for one welcome these changes, just the fact that I can see what search I was doing when viewing a post + the 'next/prev' buttons to go to the next and previous search result makes it worth it for me. That's something I wanted since day one. :)
EDIT: here's a suggestion, make those button skip blacklisted posts.
kn0t said:
80,000. I cannot favorite anything because of it.
Hopefully it gets broken. There's just so much great art!
The old UI was waaaay better than this clunky mess
Also rip the welcome screen :(
the favorites bar is back! Hopefully the faved order function be reinstated eventually(I can wait).
harleycs said:
This might be a little bit silly but the Upvote / Downvote option is MY most useful option to check new posts, I use it as some sort of seen tag and now that has changed to a ▲/▼, the Firefox I use doesn't recognize those symbols when I select to click one of them by using CTRL+V, can you change it back up the "Up / Down" as it was before?
Or at least add shortcuts for Vote Up and Vote Down, that would be even better.
for those struggling with the new inline blacklist that *announces all the blacklisted text* here's a quick and dirty workaround. Afaik this hack works only for those running chrome (and firefox?) with the extension "DRTC" http://www.coldbrewsoftware.com/drtc/ (don't read the comments) you'll need this funky lil extension to disable the text automatically as the page renders. I can't comment on the safety or security of it though so fair warning.
Anyway to use it specifically for clearing out the blacklist box, install it and set the "Mode" to All, "Template" to None, and "Category to Uncategorized. Finally add the text "#blacklist-box" to the "Section Selector" text field, and nothing in the comment field. All done! it's out of the way.
you can also use the extension to disable comments (i've used it for years since the quality of comments on this site is.... low) but afaik you can't disable both at once. if anyone knows of another way to disable elements like that you should post it below to help educate everyone else!
All the best!
looking at screenshots of the old site vs the new one, there's really not that much different in looks. two things that make a surprising amount of difference for me is the sharp edges on everything and the flat matte colors (vs the outer space background the search results page had). I can't find any color differences or a font change or something to point to, but it seems a bit brighter.
is choosing thumbnail sizes something that will be added to the site? I had a hard time seeing enough of some images that I downloaded a script to make them bigger.
Updated
You might want to publicize the next beta more clearly, seems a lot of people --myself included-- were not aware at all.
Thank you for adding some basic decency to the anon blacklist, and I think you did especially well finding such a small list that would be so broadly agreeable, while also being so beneficial. One request, I'm sure quite a few people prefer to browse on tor, so will the roaming ip feature be readded or is it no longer an issue?
Over all, while the change is disconcerting and the loss of some features disappointing, I can appreciate the necessity and hope the remaining renovations go well. Better this than to end up bogged down like certain other sites.
turbotowns said:
Yeah well, even though I'm a lolicon, I would never touch a real kid in any sexual way(I want to get violent with a lot of the little bastards, but that's illegal too), nor do I see them in a way that I would WANT to touch them that way.Maybe you could call it Soft/Mild Pedophilia, not True Pedophilia. It did take me awhile to really sit down and think about this though. To come to terms with these feelings, and what it makes me. This is hard to justify to anyone except for those that share this "kink", and it's not something I can really wear on my sleeve like I do with everything else. But even though there are and will be people that see me as some kid touching monster(never moving to Alabama now that it's passed that new law) possibly for my whole life, I know that I'm no threat to any kid(I'd rather stay as far away from those annoying like munchkins as possible), and I'm comfortable with who and what I am.
sigh... I just inadvertently cleared my comment... TWICE... So, this will not be as well worded and informed-seeming as I want it to be. And it is late. Very, very, very late for me.
I see loli-(and shota-)con as a facinating grey area adjacent to pedophilia. I see it as a attraction to the idea of children or that of youth, rather than a attraction to children. Loli, according to the wiki on this site, applys to all young-looking characters in sexual media—human and furry, underage or not. To me, loli is thus more of a beauty standard. And for the lolis themselves(the characters and the real people), loli can be seen as a lifestyle and more than a meer fettish; analogous to how the bondage game is more a hobby than just sex.Shout-out to Sunstone by Shiniez on Deviantart; HIGHLY recommended, emotional, and educational read.
Another interesting thing to consider is that, technically speaking, lolicon and shotacon are gendered super sets of pedophilia. Each encompass pedophila for thier respective gender without featuring it exclusively. It is a strange way to think about it, but the higherarchy does make some logical sense.
And yet another: loli/shota could be used as a legal loop-hole/work-around/self-treatment for people with certain types of pedophila. I have considered it myself, but I have yet to reach a point where I find it a necessary pursuit.
DISCLAIMER: I am neither a loli/shota kid nor a loli/shota fettishist.
As I noticed no one else mention it,I quite like the new aut-complete in the tag-search bar. I can see it being very useful for discovery and ferrying to find something obscure or hard-to-spell. Though it could use a little improving to help pull up characters from a particular artist, for example.
sauerkraut said:
for those struggling with the new inline blacklist that *announces all the blacklisted text* here's a quick and dirty workaround. Afaik this hack works only for those running chrome (and firefox?) with the extension "DRTC" http://www.coldbrewsoftware.com/drtc/ (don't read the comments) you'll need this funky lil extension to disable the text automatically as the page renders. I can't comment on the safety or security of it though so fair warning.Anyway to use it specifically for clearing out the blacklist box, install it and set the "Mode" to All, "Template" to None, and "Category to Uncategorized. Finally add the text "#blacklist-box" to the "Section Selector" text field, and nothing in the comment field. All done! it's out of the way.
you can also use the extension to disable comments (i've used it for years since the quality of comments on this site is.... low) but afaik you can't disable both at once. if anyone knows of another way to disable elements like that you should post it below to help educate everyone else!
All the best!
This was also bothering me so I made a simple script to remove the blacklist box for the extension Tampermonkey, if that's more your thing. Hopefully this is fixed soon.
If you have Tampermonkey you can just click this link to add it: http://paladinofstorms.net/e6_blacklist_box_remover.user.js
Also, DText linking seems to not work properly when you want to provide a description/alt text.
notmenotyou said:
Change it back.
No. The beta was open and public for nearly 5 months. We gave ample warning and opportunity to chime in with the feedback, including a news item for a month. It's also straight up impossible to change it back because of the massive incompatibilities between the old software and the new one. However, the end goal is to have the current layout prettied up that it will be as good as (or even better) than the old one.
What is the plan for the near future?
Currently the plan is likely another day or two of critical bug fixing (we've identified a few more things that were working in the beta but magically aren't right now), and afterwards directly tackle the UI. We hope to have things much more consistent on all clients before next week is over.
So, what are the new features?
In short:
- maximum of 40 search terms at once
- no more length limit to the blacklist
- all pages load faster
- custom backdrop behind all submissions to ensure that transparency isn't letting our background color shine through, making transparent images easier to see.
- Lore tag to supplement TWYS (not yet fully set up due to me being busy collecting bug reports, but soon!)
- We're now Open Source
notmenotyou said:
How do I disable the mobile view?
There are multiple ways. The quickest (which also works without an account) is to scroll down to the bottom of the page and click "Disable mobile mode support".
The other option is to disable it in your (advanced) account settings, where it's called "Responsive Mode". Simply go to settings, click "Advanced", then disable responsive mode. Be sure to check the other settings as well, there's a few new items there that are pretty self explanatory.How do I disable the gestures?
Second verse same as the first, in your account settings under advanced.
How do I get the old themes back?
You don't. Those are no longer compatible with the new site and had to be axed. Though we do want to bring them back one by one as soon as possible. However right now they're on the bottom of the list of things that need doing.
The current layout is terrible.
It will be improved and polished as time goes on. Getting the new codebase up and running had a higher priority than making it look pretty, simply because the old codebase was basically held together by wishes and duct tape, and was vulnerable to a few things on top of having atrocious performance.
If you're good at CSS have a look at this thread and feel free to provide feedback or CSS snippets, that'll help us get things polished that much quicker.
Change it back.
No. The beta was open and public for nearly 5 months. We gave ample warning and opportunity to chime in with the feedback, including a news item for a month. It's also straight up impossible to change it back because of the massive incompatibilities between the old software and the new one. However, the end goal is to have the current layout prettied up that it will be as good as (or even better) than the old one.
What is the plan for the near future?
Currently the plan is likely another day or two of critical bug fixing (we've identified a few more things that were working in the beta but magically aren't right now), and afterwards directly tackle the UI. We hope to have things much more consistent on all clients before next week is over.
So, what are the new features?
In short:
- maximum of 40 search terms at once
- no more length limit to the blacklist
- all pages load faster
- custom backdrop behind all submissions to ensure that transparency isn't letting our background color shine through, making transparent images easier to see.
- Lore tag to supplement TWYS (not yet fully set up due to me being busy collecting bug reports, but soon!)
- We're now Open Source
Was there any change in the API of e621 ??? in the bot that I use daily (@e621searchbot) in telegram now this message appears: "Data recived from e621.net API is invalid"
