Topic: Tagging Projects, (or, How YOU Can Help!)

Posted under Tag/Wiki Projects and Questions

The best is to indicate the link to the page of the artwork (within one of the artist galery of the relevant artist). The link where you can get more information on what we have just seen.
The comment of the artist's artwork, especially that really represents the image after its creator.

Alot of people simply put the link to the index of the gallery and after several months, it is binding sometimes have to search the gallery of the artist to find the artwork in question.

To know the links to index of the various galery from this artist, simply click on the question mark to the left of its name (in the list of tags)

It has been over three years since I completed the artists informations page with their differents pseudonyms and various galleries.

Updated by anonymous

I'm going to change wiki page of cheating to

Act of completing something in a way that is not fair.

, and retag pictures that falls under current

When a partner in a marriage has sex with another individual.

part as an adultery. Does anyone have something against it?

Updated by anonymous

Seems reasonable to me. I would include a note on the cheating wikipage that points Adultery seekers in the right direction.

Updated by anonymous

I have one concern though. Would it be okay, to retag to adultery pics when there is cheating between informal partners? On the one hand adultery has slightly different meaning. On the other hand here it could be used for slightly modified meaning I think it would be better if cheating tag would be solely for cheating on games/exams etc.

Updated by anonymous

You raise a good point. The dictionary definition of Adultery specifies it must be between someone who is married and anyone but that person's spouse. Cheating is more general, but also slang and has more than one meaning.

My initial thought is to go with Adultery anyways and just broaden the meaning of it for our purposes.

I can't find a word that means Adultery or Cheating that I really like the sound of since most of the synonyms describe the condition rather than the actual act. Here are some synonyms: Affair, Philandery, Infidelity.

Related, but different is Swinging or Partner Swapping. Just a side thought about other tags that may be in need of attention.

Updated by anonymous

Okay, I think I've done it. Everything that was under cheating and was not about not-sexual cheating was removed from cheating and tagged with adultery.

Perhaps, there should be better name for this tag, but it can be done with alias. If someone would think that those separation was unnecessary, then it still can still be corrected by one alias or implication.

Maybe adultery tag shouldn't be used when there is unclear whether there is lack of consent from partner, but I only changed tags that had cheating tag on them anyway, so they were badly tagged to begin with.

To sum up - I think I didn't fuck things up.

Updated by anonymous

Genjar

Former Staff

I've been thinking about the video games tag.
It seems a bit too generic, and could benefit from additional tagging. I'd be willing to do the work myself, but first I'd like to clear up a few things...before I start messing with it.

These types of images seem common enough to warrant subtags:

1) Graphical User Interfaces. Examples: #95775 #2981 #274514
There's already the GUI tag, but it is rarely used. Do you think that the term GUI is too obscure? Maybe graphical_user_interface would be a better?

2) Images with game elements but no main interface. Examples: #4614 #103688 #5662
What would be a good collective tag for those? Would game_elements be acceptable?

3) Characters turned into furries: #35767 #174062 #4624
Human(oid) in-game characters as (or replaced by) furries. There's a lot of such images, but I don't know what would be an acceptable tag for them. Should I just tag them with furrification?

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TheHuskyK9 said:
Fixing the gay solo images. I'd appreciate it if someone would help me out

Just as a little guideline (for myself and others), the following do not constitute 'gay' on this site:

1) The use of a dildo/vibrator/anal beads/other anus destroying device by a solo male on himself.
2) 'Liquid' leaking from the anus of a solo male; could be cum, could be just about anything, could have come from just about anything.

However, what about the presence of a disembodied penis in the picture? My understanding has always been 'you don't know what it's attached to, could be a herm or dickgirl', and thus it wouldn't qualify the image for the gay tag. Correct?

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Rocket_Corgi said:
Just as a little guideline (for myself and others), the following do not constitute 'gay' on this site:

1) The use of a dildo/vibrator/anal beads/other anus destroying device by a solo male on himself.
2) 'Liquid' leaking from the anus of a solo male; could be cum, could be just about anything, could have come from just about anything.

However, what about the presence of a disembodied penis in the picture? My understanding has always been 'you don't know what it's attached to, could be a herm or dickgirl', and thus it wouldn't qualify the image for the gay tag. Correct?

Disembodied penis counts as male, so picture with male being fucked by disembodied penis should get tagged gay, and shouldn't get tagged solo.
See forum #27523

Updated by anonymous

Should rukifox have all those avoid_posting tags? There is no implication, neither is rukifox mentioned on DNP wikipage so only part of pics are tagged with this tag.

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Gilda_The_Gryphon said:
Should rukifox have all those avoid_posting tags? There is no implication, neither is rukifox mentioned on DNP wikipage so only part of pics are tagged with this tag.

No, they can safely be removed, since removing an implication doesn't remove the tags it added.

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DJDinky said:
One quick question, How do I tag artists?

Put "art:" in front of the artist name. For example (art:"artist_name")

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TheHuskyK9 said:
Put "art:" in front of the artist name. For example (art:"artist_name")

Thank you, kind sir!

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DJDinky said:
Thank you, kind sir!

You're welcome awesome user :)

Updated by anonymous

EarthFurst2 said:
There seems to be three tags for the same artist (koinu-kun):
1) koinukun * artist
2) koinu_kun * artist
3) koinu-kun * general

http://www.furaffinity.net/user/koinu-kun says "Full Name: Koinu-kun",
so I think art confirmed to involve Koinu-kun (but tagged as koinukun or koinu_kun) should have tag changed to the 3rd tag (ie koinu-kun).

Potentially set up an alias?

I fixed them all to koinu-kun; the small number of images leads to think that an alias is unnecessary.

Updated by anonymous

So, new project I'm working on.
Feel free to help out with it.

Bad *_(character) and *_(artist) etc. tags.

Tags only deserve a _(*) if there's potential tagging conflict.

For example, Sparrow and sparrow_(artist) because sparrow is a bird as well as an artist.
However, chazcatrix_(character) sure as hell didn't need the _(character) added to it.

There's a ton of them.
if you're going to help, make sure you check to see if they're and artist and character name, sometimes that causes conflicts on otherwise non-conflicting tags.

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TheHuskyK9 said:
The tag alias page has 2 pages of pending aliases that haven't been touched in weeks

A bit late yes, but I just wanted to touch on this.

Sometimes aliases/implications take a long time to process even after they have been approved

Updated by anonymous

Rainbow_Dash said:
A bit late yes, but I just wanted to touch on this.

Sometimes aliases/implications take a long time to process even after they have been approved

Got it

Updated by anonymous

I would want to clean up game tag, but I'm not sure how. Currently there are 4 types of posts tagged with this tag.

1
post #359296
where video game gui is visible.

2
post #359356
characters playing some kind of game.

3
Flash with an actual game. Like post #352800

4
Flashes like post #219932 where the only interaction is scene selection.

I believe that 1 usage is wrong. Gui tag or some other is more appropriate. Also IMO 4 usage is wrong and should have only interactive tag.

But that still leaves two different usages. I would rather like that 3 definition have its own tag, but I have no idea how to rename those two.

So do anyone have any other suggestions, or maybe it was discussed somewhere before?

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Gilda_The_Gryphon said:
I would want to clean up game tag, but I'm not sure how. Currently there are 4 types of posts tagged with this tag.

1
post #359296
where video game gui is visible.

2
post #359356
characters playing some kind of game.

3
Flash with an actual game. Like post #352800

4
Flashes like post #219932 where the only interaction is scene selection.

I believe that 1 usage is wrong. Gui tag or some other is more appropriate. Also IMO 4 usage is wrong and should have only interactive tag.

But that still leaves two different usages. I would rather like that 3 definition have its own tag, but I have no idea how to rename those two.

So do anyone have any other suggestions, or maybe it was discussed somewhere before?

I remember seeing a flash_game tag, why not simply use that for reason #3 and leave game for reason #2? unless there is something I'm not seeing. :P

Updated by anonymous

I cleaned up most of the "invalid_tag" tags and a couple of the "tagme" ones too, if one or 2 people could help clean invalid tag up that would be great

Updated by anonymous

Quick question: are tags for pairings between characters allowed? Something along the lines of "brangelina" where a specific pairing has gotten a moniker and someone turned it into a tag. I'm thinking not. But I wanted to double check the policy on it before removing the tag or not.

ETA: Thanks, Ippiki! I'll remove them then.

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furrypickle said:
Quick question: are tags for pairings between characters allowed? Something along the lines of "brangelina" where a specific pairing has gotten a moniker and someone turned it into a tag. I'm thinking not. But I wanted to double check the policy on it before removing the tag or not.

nah

Updated by anonymous

Need help fixing images tagged with hot. The images with this tag should only be about the temperature

Updated by anonymous

What if a character is legitimately hot? As in this image:

post #16283

Would they get the hot tag? Or are we only talking about physical items that are either steaming, on fire, or glowing red with heat?

Updated by anonymous

Does things like fire on charizard's tail qualify as hot?

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corgi_bread said:
What if a character is legitimately hot? As in this image:

post #16283

Would they get the hot tag? Or are we only talking about physical items that are either steaming, on fire, or glowing red with heat?

I'd say the hot tag stays. Only remove the tag if they're using hot as in sexy/beautiful

Updated by anonymous

Gilda_The_Gryphon said:
Does things like fire on charizard's tail qualify as hot?

Hmmm imo I wouldn't tag it as hot. If a character looks sweaty or tired from the heat then I would tag it as hot

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TheHuskyK9 said:
I'd say the hot tag stays. Only remove the tag if they're using hot as in sexy/beautiful

Alright, I just wanted to clarify. Once we get this tag cleaned up we'll have to edit the wiki to have a bit more clarification.

Updated by anonymous

I need some help here guys....it seems common object tags are now artist names or char names....It keeps changing normal tags into these special ones there are a ton of them. Can someone help me change mittens to make it a normal tag and not a char one?

I forgot how to change the special char tag back to a normal one >.< .....how do I do that again? c:

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Conker said:
I need some help here guys....it seems common object tags are now artist names or char names....It keeps changing normal tags into these special ones there are a ton of them. Can someone help me change mittens to make it a normal tag and not a char one?

I forgot how to change the special char tag back to a normal one >.< .....how do I do that again? c:

Do this: "general:mittens" or "gen:mittens"

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Char

Former Staff

TheHuskyK9 said:
Do this: "general:mittens" or "gen:mittens"

Now I'm just imagining an adorable kitten in an army general's uniform.

Edit: or a total hard-ass general that will destroy you for making fun of his name.

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Char said:
Now I'm just imagining an adorable kitten in an army general's uniform.

Edit: or a total hard-ass general that will destroy you for making fun of his name.

+1

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Char said:
Now I'm just imagining an adorable kitten in an army general's uniform.

Edit: or a total hard-ass general that will destroy you for making fun of his name.

Lol...thats adorable....and scary XD It should so be a 'thing'

Updated by anonymous

Munkelzahn said:
Rommel the Desert Kitten!

I read your book, you magnificent son of a bitch.

Updated by anonymous

TheHuskyK9 said:
Need some help with two projects but I'm going to do one at a time.

https://e621.net/post/index/1/threesome%20orgy

Many images tagged with threesome are tagged with orgy which is incorrect. Our wiki defines an orgy as five or more characters having sex. A threesome has three characters having sex. So threesome does not equal an orgy. We have to remove orgy from any images tagged with threesome

What if there's a picture with a group of several split off couples and/or threesomes having sex separately from each other in the same pic or comic page? Like this . I've seen quite a few like this so I know it's bound to come up sooner or later with this project. What I wonder about is whether it would be considered just an orgy or whether it's the one instance where both threesome and orgy can legitimately be on the same picture.

Because if I was searching under threesome, I'd expect to see any three people who are exclusively playing with only each other, regardless if there's another couple going at it in the background or another part of the image.

While it is an orgy because of the total number of people, in pictures like that one it's also still just a bunch of separately acting couples/groups having public sex within sight of each other. Which means tags like threesome might still apply to one specific group unless/until it turns into a massive sexual free-for-all. The key is if it's exclusive to the rest of the group sex in the picture. In those few cases, I think removing the threesome tag breaks the ability for people to search for that smaller group within the bigger orgy picture. I think it should be the (only) exception though: when they're exclusive to the rest of the group then it's just a normal threesome being surrounded by other sex, but not interacting with it. It's the only case where threesome and orgy could legitimately make any sense on the same image though. The rest of the project sounds like a very good idea.

Updated by anonymous

Yeah, there can be threesomes and twosomes in a picture with an orgy in progress, they aren't necessarily exclusive to each other.

Updated by anonymous

Ok, but if there is only one threesome in the image, the orgy tag should not apply

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TheHuskyK9 said:
Ok, but if there is only one threesome in the image, the orgy tag should not apply

That is correct.

Updated by anonymous

how does one add websites to a tag? Bad Dragon doesn't actually have any description or link to Bad Dragon, which seems really wrong considering they own the site! :P Also, added "Overheating" to the picture above regarding the use of "hot".

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123easy said:
how does one add websites to a tag? Bad Dragon doesn't actually have any description or link to Bad Dragon, which seems really wrong considering they own the site! :P Also, added "Overheating" to the picture above regarding the use of "hot".

You can add a link in the wiki page for the tag, accessible via the ? to the left of the tag name.

Updated by anonymous

I'm *NOT* trying here to recruit anyone to help me with actual tagging, but I'd like some input and ideas on the discussion if you don't mind, so I'm not inventing tags which are like way confusing or hard understand --

I could use some assistance just considering use of tags describing "who is in charge" (male/female/etc) before any are added to pics, wiki-entries created, etc.

Discussion is here.

Thanks.

Updated by anonymous

Genjar

Former Staff

There are 448 images tagged with huge---

Edit: Mostly cleaned up. Huge thanks to ragswift for help.

Updated by anonymous

I'm not sure this warrants its own thread, but I figured I'd mention I've started a quicktime_event tag for prompts. I've seen this as a growing trend in some art-circles but especially in porn.

I hunted around for them but I didn't find any tags that really matched this. I'm aware we could go totally in depth with onscreen-prompt vernacular, but for now this is a start and we can grow it up if it's needed. I've also gone ahead and added life_bar to related pages in the wiki. If you can think of other tags that also relate (or if you wanted to create a videogame-y implication or something) go ahead.

If not just tag this as you come across it.

Updated by anonymous

Tag "Hologram" leads to artist page, and there already is an aritst tag for approriate name, someone mods or capable please change it to general-type.

Updated by anonymous

There's a black_sclera tag but I can't see any other color mentioned, should we change tags like yellow_eyes to be yellow_sclera where appropriate and create some sort of implication like non-white_sclera or something

Updated by anonymous

Sollux said:
should we change tags like yellow_eyes to be yellow_sclera

No. That is a terrible idea.

Updated by anonymous

Sollux said:
There's a black_sclera tag but I can't see any other color mentioned, should we change tags like yellow_eyes to be yellow_sclera where appropriate and create some sort of implication like non-white_sclera or something

black_sclera is a tag because of that specific niche; eyes with black sclera and different colored irises (usually something in the lighter half of the spectrum, like ice blue or similar) are usually used to depict certain traits, depending on the initial reference; If it's an anime, generally the implication is that they are a cold-hearted murderer, for example.

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123easy said:
black_sclera is a tag because of that specific niche; eyes with black sclera and different colored irises (usually something in the lighter half of the spectrum, like ice blue or similar) are usually used to depict certain traits, depending on the initial reference; If it's an anime, generally the implication is that they are a cold-hearted murderer, for example.

oh I wasn't aware of that, it just didn't make sense to me to have a black sclera tag and no other colors

Updated by anonymous

Genjar

Former Staff

I need a bit of advice.
What to do about the piledriver tag? It's mostly used for the sex position, but there's at least one wrestling-move piledriver among those.

Maybe the sex positions should be retagged as piledriver_position, to make it uniform with the other position tags? Good or bad idea?

Updated by anonymous

Need advice on what to do with rokukeshiba tag.
Its tag type currently set to artist,
but I just checked rokukeshiba's (aka lockewolfe) FA gallery and scraps and none of the art was done by rokukeshiba.

That person's rokuke character is named "Rokuke Shiba" (ref http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1377886/ )
e621 tag for that character currently "rokuke_shiba_(character)".

That person also has other characters: "Hanae ©" and "Roka ©".

Change tag type of rokukeshiba back to gen?
Then create copyright tag for any image with one of Rokuke/lockewolfe's characters? Tag of copyright:rokuke_shiba ?

Updated by anonymous

Inconsistent usage of the tag: CAT

This tag only applies to house cats and not any feline.

I've been trying to tidy up but it's just too much work. There are hundreds of pictures in which no cat is displayed but are tagged as such because a tiger, cheetah, lion or any other form of feline appears.

This usage of the tag cat makes it redundand to the tag feline.

Cat = Housecat. (Tag may also be used in hybrids which are part housecat).

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Char

Former Staff

Topcat said:
Inconsistent usage of the tag: CAT

This tag only applies to house cats and not any feline.

I've been trying to tidy up but it's just too much work. There are hundreds of pictures in which no cat is displayed but are tagged as such because a tiger, cheetah, lion or any other form of feline appears.

This usage of the tag cat makes it redundand to the tag feline.

Cat = Housecat. (Tag may also be used in hybrids which are part housecat).

This more than likely means that the tag "cat" is too vague to be a tag on its own, and probably just needs to be aliased away to either "feline", if we want to make it easy on ourselves, or "house_cat", which will still result in images being mistagged, they'll just end up mistagged as "house_cat" instead because the user tried to tag "cat" onto a post of a lion or whatever.

There's no way we're going to be able to actually stop people from trying to tag "cat" on images that contain felines, whether they're house cats or not.

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Char said:
This more than likely means that the tag "cat" is too vague to be a tag on its own, and probably just needs to be aliased away to either "feline", if we want to make it easy on ourselves, or "house_cat", which will still result in images being mistagged, they'll just end up mistagged as "house_cat" instead because the user tried to tag "cat" onto a post of a lion or whatever.

There's no way we're going to be able to actually stop people from trying to tag "cat" on images that contain felines, whether they're house cats or not.

So alias to feline, and then make a separate house_cat tag, is what I'm reading?

Updated by anonymous

I'm inclined to agree.
Trying to clean it up might be impossible, when even images such as this get tagged with cat:
post #335823
Feline, sure. Cat? Too hard to tell. (...and I wouldn't tag that as dragon.)

Either way, it's a lot of work. But seems easier to just add that alias and then make a new tag.

Updated by anonymous

Currently house_cat tag already exists although it is barely used and is not included under "species".

Updated by anonymous

I'm with Ippiks and Cha on this one. Not liking that alias

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TheHuskyK9 said:
I'm with Ippiks and Cha on this one. Not liking that alias

If you meant Char- Erm, he hasn't given his opinion on the alias, though his post reads such that he would support the alias and retagging that I mentioned.

In response to Ippiki's post- Housecats that exist in the wild (strays) are still housecats. Just because you might domesticate a bobcat doesn't mean that it's no longer a bobcat. Or, to use another simile; you wouldn't call a dog, feral or domesticated, a wolf, now would you? Housecats (Felis catus) are called that to differentiate them from the root that they initially descended from, the wildcat (Felis silvestris). Sure, we have tons of different breeds, but that's just selective breeding for specific traits, sort of like how Jews have big noses, or that tribe in Africa, the Pygmies, are unilaterally very short people, and so on.

Updated by anonymous

I've been researching a little bit and it seems that the common name of "Felis Catus" is either: Cat, Domestic cat or Housecat.

Written exactly like this.

In case a new tag is chosen we would have to decide whether "domestic_cat" or "housecat" is more appropriate. Furthermore, all current pictures with housecats must be re-tagged.

If Cat is to be kept to mean "Felis catus", then we would have to retag other pictures in which a cat is not displayed and make an attempt at stop people using from using the tag incorrectly.

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What would I do?

I would go for a new tag for three reasons:

- Less ambiguity by having a tag that explicitly distinguishes a specific species.

- It's easier to tag pictures in which you can clearly see that the character displayed is a domestic cat instead of some strange random feline creature, for which the tag "feline" should be enough as there is no clear species visible.

- Finally I would love this new tag to become popular even outside e621. Other wesbites such as sofurry have the same problem. Try to find something tagged as "cat" and you're flooded with stories or pictures of lions, cheetahs and tigers.

Yesterday I did a search for "cat cheetah", "cat cougar" and "cat lynx" and deleted the tag from dozens of pictures in which there was no domestic cat. If you search for "cat lion" and "cat tiger" you'll still find many results with this problem, because I didn't have time yet to retag these.

But... if it's going to be aliased I, obviously, won't keep doing that because it's very time consuming.

Anyways, the only thing I would like to ask is that, if it's going to be aliased, we should have some time before the change takes effect so that we can re-tag every domestic cat picture with "domestic_cat" or "housecat" depending on the name that is finally chosen for the new tag.

Updated by anonymous

Not sure if this wholly counts but some of the older wiki pages might have some aliases and implications that don't always work right, as thread https://e621.net/forum/show/87544 discusses, maybe a few people should go through the wiki and look for any such problems and point them out for discussion, instead of them being found at random.

Updated by anonymous

Well, now that you mention it...
- Sonic implies hedgehog (through the sonic_the_hedgehog alias), which means that even humanized sonic gets tagged as hedgehog. I'm almost sure that such implication wouldn't get accepted nowadays..

- I've also noticed that demon is implicated to demon. Dunno what's up with that, it seems kinda pointless to implicate something to itself.

- Panties_on_side was implicated to panties, but later got aliased to panties_aside. So it doesn't actually work: there's plenty of images tagged as panties_aside, that lack the panties tag. The implication should be moved to the main tag. Fixed.

- Rigby_(regular_show) was implicated to regular_show, but the character tag was later shortened to Rigby. The implication should be updated.

Edit:
- Milf implies mother, which implies parent. And the wiki entry for parent states that it's for "images or animations depicting a character and at least one of their children". So solo images tagged as milf get implicated with parent, with is contrary to the wiki...

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Genjar said:
Well, now that you mention it...
- Sonic implies hedgehog (through the sonic_the_hedgehog alias), which means that even humanized sonic gets tagged as hedgehog. I'm almost sure that such implication wouldn't get accepted nowadays..

- I've also noticed that demon is implicated to demon. Dunno what's up with that, it seems kinda pointless to implicate something to itself.

- Panties_on_side was implicated to panties, but later got aliased to panties_aside. So it doesn't actually work: there's plenty of images tagged as panties_aside, that lack the panties tag. The implication should be moved to the main tag.

- Rigby_(regular_show) was implicated to regular_show, but the character tag was later shortened to Rigby. The implication should be updated.

I think the species tag being implicated to demon is an artifact of the old days where we didn't have the species catagory. Otherwise, good points all.

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SnowWolf long time ago said:

Keep an eye on...

These are completed projects that will need a little maintenance now and then. :)

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Tag me!

Goal: Keep tagme empty :) --also, to tag any images with tagme if they're low on tags so you can find and tag 'em later~~

  • Try for at least 10 tags per image. If you can't make it, leave tagme on the picture and try again later :)

Completed on July 13. 2011 by a number of AWESOME users!! GOOD JOB GUYS!

Remember when tagme was empty? These were the good times. I started to tag few pictures a day from tagme order:random, but feel free to join this because tagme has currently almost 5000 instances.

I also think that it is good idea to resolve some source_request on older pics, since now there are easy reverse image links there.

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Gilda_The_Gryphon said:
Remember when tagme was empty? These were the good times. I started to tag few pictures a day from tagme order:random, but feel free to join this because tagme has currently almost 5000 instances.

I'll help you

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