Topic: Tagging Projects, (or, How YOU Can Help!)

Posted under Tag/Wiki Projects and Questions

Gilda_The_Gryphon said:
Remember when tagme was empty? These were the good times. I started to tag few pictures a day from tagme order:random, but feel free to join this because tagme has currently almost 5000 instances.

I also think that it is good idea to resolve some source_request on older pics, since now there are easy reverse image links there.

didn't realize tagme was so full, ill try to help but I might be slow because internet

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When exactly are we supposed to remove that tag, anyway?
I've been wary about removing it, because... well, there's almost always more tags to add and I often have this nagging feeling that I'm forgetting something.

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Genjar said:
When exactly are we supposed to remove that tag, anyway?
I've been wary about removing it, because... well, there's almost always more tags to add and I often have this nagging feeling that I'm forgetting something.

You remove it when there's more than enough tags. If an image has only 5 tags or if it doesn't have the essentials tagged (artist, character, or species), you keep it there. If an image has over a good 10 tags or if the essentials are tagged, that's when you remove it imo

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TheHuskyK9 said:
You remove it when there's more than enough tags. If an image has only 5 tags or if it doesn't have the essentials tagged (artist, character, or species), you keep it there. If an image has over a good 10 tags or if the essentials are tagged, that's when you remove it imo

That few?
Most of them already have over ten tags. So I guess I'm not the only one who's overly cautious about removing it. :/

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TheHuskyK9 said:
You remove it when there's more than enough tags. If an image has only 5 tags or if it doesn't have the essentials tagged (artist, character, or species), you keep it there. If an image has over a good 10 tags or if the essentials are tagged, that's when you remove it imo

I always try to add at least one tag, and keep total number >10, before removing tagme, but sometimes tagme is left because it was added by original poster when it was only tag on picture and everyone else forgot to remove it.

Remember that you can order pictures by order:tagcount and order:tagcount_asc

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I think that I located source of over 40% of tagmes - tagme user:Juni221
If you see another user that is spamming these tags like that IMO you should report him. Tagme is not supposed to be use on every picture you upload.

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Gilda_The_Gryphon said:
I think that I located source of over 40% of tagmes - tagme user:Juni221
If you see another user that is spamming these tags like that IMO you should report him. Tagme is not supposed to be use on every picture you upload.

handled

also yeah dont remove tagme without adding something to it, even if it's just one tag. (not directed at gilda)

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Any suggestions on what to do with the wave tag? It's mostly tagged for water waves, but there also were a few images that should be tagged as waving or wave_the_swallow.

I sorted those out, but that still leaves us with wave and waves tags. Should those be left separate (since wave needs occasional cleanup), or aliased? And if aliased, which one should be the main tag: wave or waves?

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No opinions about that wave alias? Ah well, I guess I'll just keep it on my clean up list and see how often it gets mistagged..

As for actual projects, here's one that someone could help with:
'sex -gay -straight -intersex -lesbian -ambiguous_gender. All those (except tentacles) are either mistagged with sex, or missing the orientation or ambiguous_gender tags; and there's 135 pages to sort out. In particular, it'd be great if someone could help tag the mlp images...since I personally don't enjoy tagging those.

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Char

Former Staff

Genjar said:
I sorted those out, but that still leaves us with wave and waves tags. Should those be left separate (since wave needs occasional cleanup), or aliased? And if aliased, which one should be the main tag: wave or waves?

Probably should just alias waves to wave and clean out "wave" as needed.

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Char said:
Probably should just alias waves to wave and clean out "wave" as needed.

I would recommend we alias it to "wave_(fluid_physics)" or somesuch, to make it less ambiguous.

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Char said:
Probably should just alias waves to wave and clean out "wave" as needed.

Probably. I was thinking that waves would be less ambiguous, but I guess either way it'll get mistagged occasionally. And singular seems to be the standard, except for tags such as eyes.

123easy said:
I would recommend we alias it to "wave_(fluid_physics)" or somesuch, to make it less ambiguous.

That would certainly make it less ambiguous, but... I dunno, this probably doesn't get mistagged so frequently that it'd warrant that level of detail.

I think I'll just keep an eye on it for a while (few weeks), and submit an alias to wave if that seems enough.

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Genjar said:
Probably. I was thinking that waves would be less ambiguous, but I guess either way it'll get mistagged occasionally. And singular seems to be the standard, except for tags such as eyes.

That would certainly make it less ambiguous, but... I dunno, this probably doesn't get mistagged so frequently that it'd warrant that level of detail.

I think I'll just keep an eye on it for a while (few weeks), and submit an alias to wave if that seems enough.

It's less about it being mistagged frequently and just making it less ambiguous.

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There seems to be a lot of confusion between the tag tank_top and vest, as it seems that about half the images with the vest tag are actually have tank tops in the picture. I'll do my best to clean it up a bit.

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As for actual projects, here's one that someone could help with:
'sex -gay -straight -intersex -lesbian -ambiguous_gender. All those (except tentacles) are either mistagged with sex, or missing the orientation or ambiguous_gender tags; and there's 135 pages to sort out. In particular, it'd be great if someone could help tag the mlp images...since I personally don't enjoy tagging those.

I'll help you with that.

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Lunatic91 said:
I'll help you with that.

If I get some time I will start doing the mlp ones

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Rainbow_Dash said:
If I get some time I will start doing the mlp ones

I've already done some of them, but thanks for helping.

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Brilliant. Thanks for the help.
I've been having a hard time keeping up with that project, they just keep accumulating so fast.

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Much appreciated.
Number four counts as masturbation instead of sex, since it's just a magically controlled dildo. Same goes for number nine.

But yeah, the rest are rather ambiguous. I'm not sure how to properly tag those. :/

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Rainbow_Dash said:
Thank you so much! If you want I can go through each and properly tag them how I would tag them

Would be the best. Do we have a tag for the act on 11?

OT: Have you already made the changes for the changelings?

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Lunatic91 said:
Would be the best. Do we have a tag for the act on 11?

From the non-MLP ones, I will do the ones I know.

OT: Have you already made the changes for the changelings?

I have not yet made the changes for changeling, I'll go back and look if there were any I really needed to do as an admin

That act I'm not sure of because it does not look like penetration so maybe frottage? If that is the correct way we are using that term

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Rainbow_Dash said:
I have not yet made the changes for changeling, I'll go back and look if there were any I really needed to do as an admin

That act I'm not sure of because it does not look like penetration so maybe frottage? If that is the correct way we are using that term

Similar pictures are just tagged with tribadism and bisexual 1 2, so i don't think we have one for that.

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Lunatic91 said:
Similar pictures are just tagged with tribadism and bisexual 1 2, so i don't think we have one for that.

Alright so it appears that tribadism is the female version and frotting is the male version, so we might need to make a tag for this act of penis_between_tribadism

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Rainbow_Dash said:
Alright so it appears that tribadism is the female version and frotting is the male version, so we might need to make a tag for this act of penis_between_tribadism

Sounds good,but maybe someone here knows the name.

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Rainbow_Dash said:
Alright so it appears that tribadism is the female version and frotting is the male version, so we might need to make a tag for this act of penis_between_tribadism

It's all frottage. Frottage is the act of rubbing yourself against another for sexual gratification. I don't know how it got misappropriated to mean penises only. :/

That said, neither image is tribadism, either, since they aren't assuming a male role on a female, or in the cruder misappropriated sense they aren't rubbing their female genitalia together, but are instead using their labia to simulate lips in a double 'blowjob' style scenario; Perhaps call it 'cock_rubbing' since that seems to be the prevalent term used to describe it that a quick googling and porn site searching found.

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So should we clean up all two three tags then? And I am really against cock_rubbing simply because I know that people will think it means to rub your cock on anything

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Rainbow_Dash said:
So should we clean up all two three tags then? And I am really against cock_rubbing simply because I know that people will think it means to rub your cock on anything

vagina_on_cock?

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Rainbow_Dash said:
So should we clean up all two three tags then?

No. They're separate for a reason: tribadism tag for pussies and frottage for penes. Not quite the literal definition, but it works well enough: they're rarely mistagged.

Maybe switch the main tag of frottage to frot, since that word is male exclusive. But no need to touch those otherwise.

Literal accuracy shouldn't be the primary concern in tagging.

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I found a video with an act like this called Pussyjob, so maybe this or cuntjob for 1m/1f and duo_.... for 1m/2f ?

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Lunatic91 said:
I found a video with an act like this called Pussyjob, so maybe this or countjob for 1m/1f and duo_.... for 1m/2f ?

+1 for pussyjob, fits with footjob and handjob,

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edidaf said:
+1 for pussyjob, fits with footjob and handjob,

I can agree to that

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edidaf said:
+1 for pussyjob, fits with footjob and handjob,

Looks like it actually is called pussyjob on some sex sites. So I suppose that'd be fine.

I was thinking of sumata (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sumata), but that seems far too obscure: it's not even used on Danbooru. There's also a related sex position called cameltoe_slide, but again, that wouldn't work for all instances of those. So, yeah, +1 for pussyjob.

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We need to go back and clean up posts with both the bdsm and rape tags. The two are mutually exclusive. I'm working on it slowly, but since it can be a little subjective (that is, what many people might think looks like rape, an active BDSM participant may call "Friday night.") and difficult to determine, it's slow going. I try to err on the side of tagging it rape. bdsm, bondage and rape wikis, for reference.

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RedOctober said:
We need to go back and clean up posts with both the bdsm and rape tags. The two are mutually exclusive. I'm working on it slowly, but since it can be a little subjective (that is, what many people might think looks like rape, an active BDSM participant may call "Friday night.") and difficult to determine, it's slow going. I try to err on the side of tagging it rape. bdsm, bondage and rape wikis, for reference.

Thanks for remembering two years ago.

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123easy said:
Thanks for remembering two years ago.

Of my 7k tag edits, that's where most came from lol. I spent forever on that shit and am sad to see that there are again a bunch.

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Error: You cannot edit tags during your first three days, or you have reached your hourly tag edit limit.

This is getting kinda annoying

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Lizardite said:
This is getting kinda annoying

That's to prevent trolls from messing with valid tags. But since you're not new, you can do what I did and request to be Privileged Don't know if it'll work though. It was probably a one time thing

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I've been wondering about that myself. Sometimes those are tagged as straight and sometimes as bi.. I don't think we have any standard for it yet.

This, for example:
post #248080

If someone searches for straight, do they want to see that...?

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....I'd leave straight or bi out of it, because unless all characters are interacting with both other parties in the image, we can't really tell. I mean, two guys fucking one girl could just really like the one girl so much they don't care about other guys' cocks... or they might not have any sort of attachment to the social more of not fucking the same girl as another guy. Same for two girls on one guy- they could be his wives in a poly relationship, who love him but don't make love to each other.

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123easy said:
....I'd leave straight or bi out of it, because unless all characters are interacting with both other parties in the image, we can't really tell. I mean, two guys fucking one girl could just really like the one girl so much they don't care about other guys' cocks... or they might not have any sort of attachment to the social more of not fucking the same girl as another guy. Same for two girls on one guy- they could be his wives in a poly relationship, who love him but don't make love to each other.

Valid point, but if we leave straight or bi out of it, should there be a own tag for something like this?

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Lunatic91 said:
Valid point, but if we leave straight or bi out of it, should there be a own tag for something like this?

Probably. Start a tag discussion thread.

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Lunatic91 said:
Valid point, but if we leave straight or bi out of it, should there be a own tag for something like this?

shared_partner perhaps?

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123easy said:
shared_partner perhaps?

Sounds better than the one I came up with, but should we open a discussion thread like RedOctober said?

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Lunatic91 said:
Sounds better than the one I came up with, but should we open a discussion thread like RedOctober said?

Sounds good.

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123easy said:
Ehh... I'd keep it as is so that it's the ur-tag to the fingering in case you don't care what hole it's in, if for no other reason.

Then I'll go through the fingering pics and add vaginal_fingering where it applies, when I've got the time.

Edit: Since knotting implies sex, have we a tag for it while masturbating using dildos?

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Jatix said:
Then I'll go through the fingering pics and add vaginal_fingering where it applies, when I've got the time.

Seems like a good idea.
By the way, there's also a oral_fingering tag, but it's pretty redundant with finger_in_mouth. Dunno which of those should be kept.

Edit: Since knotting implies sex, have we a tag for it while masturbating using dildos?

Yep. Knotting is for actual knotting, but knot can be used for knotty dildos. Those can usually also be tagged as canine dildo.

Edit: ...now that I think about it, knotting should probably implicate knot.

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tony311 said:
That wouldn't work with posts like:

post #426477 post #424926 post #372472

Good point, never mind then. I was thinking that it wouldn't be possible to tag knotting without seeing it, but yeah, those poses make it obvious.

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Jatix said:
I've seen we have lip_bite and biting_lip.
Would be best if we alias them, but which one should be the one that gets aliased ? biting_lip has more posts.

There was a thread about it recently (forum #93635).
The consensus was that one of those was for biting someone else's lip, and the other for biting own lip.

I still think they need more descriptive tag names, though. I tried tagging them myself, but kept forgetting which is which.

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Genjar said:
There was a thread about it recently (forum #93635).
The consensus was that one of those was for biting someone else's lip, and the other for biting own lip.

I still think they need more descriptive tag names, though. I tried tagging them myself, but kept forgetting which is which.

Why differentiate though? Are there really that many that we need to categorize?

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Rainbow_Dash said:
Why differentiate though? Are there really that many that we need to categorize?

I'll go through them tomorrow and sort them out,then we'll see how much of the biting_lip pics are left.

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Jatix said:
I'll go through them tomorrow and sort them out,then we'll see how much of the biting_lip pics are left.

No need to, I've already sorted them out. Turns out, none of the images had lip_bite (someone biting someone lip) soI fix'd them. As I said from my other thread, I got this

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TheHuskyK9 said:
No need to, I've already sorted them out. Turns out, none of the images had lip_bite (someone biting someone lip) soI fix'd them. As I said from my other thread, I got this

So alias time or what?

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Rainbow_Dash said:
So alias time or what?

I guess we can alias lip_bite to biting_lip since it's not used. And even if it is used, it's often used incorrectly

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TheHuskyK9 said:
I guess we can alias lip_bite to biting_lip since it's not used. And even if it is used, it's often used incorrectly

Yes! I can do that

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Rainbow_Dash said:
Yes! I can do that

So do I make an alias or....

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TheHuskyK9 said:
So do I make an alias or....

Aliasing is broken on our end atm, so we're just telling admins for the nonce.

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Genjar said:
There was a thread about it recently (forum #93635).
The consensus was that one of those was for biting someone else's lip, and the other for biting own lip.

I still think they need more descriptive tag names, though. I tried tagging them myself, but kept forgetting which is which.

I'm for just picking one, people could just search for lip_biting solo or -solo to find what they want

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Genjar

Former Staff

What's with that new female_rape wiki entry?

This tag refers to images that show a female character raping another character of any gender. This tag should be used when the female is doing the raping. This tag could also be applied to primarily female intersexual characters raping other characers

Was that actually discussed somewhere, or did someone just make it up own their own? Disregarding the usefulness of the tag itself, tagging intersex as female_* seems like asking for mistags...

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